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originally posted by: th3dudeabides
a reply to: SonoftheSun
Those 4 in 10 Americans are retarded. I respect the right to observe any faith you want to practice but a person's faith must change when hard evidence contradicts mythology. Social policy should not kowtow to zealotry. If you could reason with a religious person religion wouldn't exist. I agree with the govt. in this matter. Fundamentalist religions are extremely dangerous and should be monitored.
originally posted by: TheChrome
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Fair enough reply. So let's look at this from a scientific standpoint. Most in the scientific community assume there is life on other planets, since there are so many. Yet with all the radio telescopes, there has not been any evidence of such. So it is a belief in itself, not based on any true fact.
Why when doing the calculations for the theory of relativity and the theory of quantum mechanics do the final equations lead to the same point, which is unexplainable to scientists? We have to be humble in realizing we really don't know much at all. Socrates himself said "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."
And yet we have a creator, instructing us and giving us wisdom, we cannot conclude ourselves
originally posted by: TheChrome
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Fair enough reply. So let's look at this from a scientific standpoint. Most in the scientific community assume there is life on other planets, since there are so many. Yet with all the radio telescopes, there has not been any evidence of such. So it is a belief in itself, not based on any true fact.
Why when doing the calculations for the theory of relativity and the theory of quantum mechanics do the final equations lead to the same point, which is unexplainable to scientists? We have to be humble in realizing we really don't know much at all. Socrates himself said "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."
And yet we have a creator, instructing us and giving us wisdom, we cannot conclude ourselves
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: TheChrome
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Fair enough reply. So let's look at this from a scientific standpoint. Most in the scientific community assume there is life on other planets, since there are so many. Yet with all the radio telescopes, there has not been any evidence of such. So it is a belief in itself, not based on any true fact.
But it is considered to be a pretty reliable prediction given that we know the odds of life developing on a planet are greater than 0, therefore given a large enough universe and enough chances (planets), life elsewhere in the universe is inevitable.
Why when doing the calculations for the theory of relativity and the theory of quantum mechanics do the final equations lead to the same point, which is unexplainable to scientists? We have to be humble in realizing we really don't know much at all. Socrates himself said "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."
Yes this is why I am an agnostic. I don't know the answer and don't make assumptions like "God" when I don't know. You are misusing that Socrates quote by substituting god for the answer to questions you don't know the answer to. You are pretending like you know the answer to the question when in fact you do not. That is what Socrates meant when he said that.
And yet we have a creator, instructing us and giving us wisdom, we cannot conclude ourselves
Prove it.
originally posted by: TheChrome
I have a genius intelligence level
originally posted by: TheChrome
Proof is a pretty large picture, and takes a lot of information which is too much to sort through by typing a response.
The bible is a 1500+ page book, and I would motion that most who claim it is inaccurate have never read it in it's entirety, and most who defend it have not read it in it's entirety. Better yet, those who have read it in it's entirety, probably didn't go a step further to compare it to history and science. And those who have read it in it's entirety and compared it to history and science, may have done so with a foregone conclusion.
I can prove from the bible that Man is the first physical intelligent creation in the universe and that there is no such thing as "aliens" except demonic spirit creatures. But that would go against physics and scientific conclusions. I don't think physics can explain a realm not governed by our laws. Without getting into details, why are humans beautiful creatures (although many do unspeakable things) that smile and for the most part are dignified creatures. Yet paranormal alien accounts include "the greys" that are emotionless and somewhat undignified creatures that rape, torture, and do experiments on people. Things that the majority of man would think is deplorable, and yet it is accepted that a more advanced race is capable of these things? Yes a more advanced race is capable of this, the spirits who rebelled against god and seek to mislead people. The ones who are mentioned that were able to take human form. If they have that sort of power over the elements they most certainly can create spaceships and other things to fool us.
Does this sort of spooky "alien" thing sound anything on par with the teaching of hellfire to you? Think about it...
Scare tactics
Without getting into details, why are humans beautiful creatures (although many do unspeakable things) that smile and for the most part are dignified creatures. Yet paranormal alien accounts include "the greys" that are emotionless and somewhat undignified creatures that rape, torture, and do experiments on people.
Socrates himself said "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."
originally posted by: randyvs
I don't see a the first thing wrong with belief in
the virgin birth.
originally posted by: Kratos40
a reply to: SonoftheSun
All you anti-evolutionist people are idiots. Plain and simple. Look at the fossil record. Something that keeps giving us information as we find new places to dig. New information gets published. Take a science class for once.
I used to belong to one of your so called "religions" but I wised up. Religion is a farce.
Take a genetics class and it will open up your eyes. Evolution is still going on. Look into Sickle Cell Anemia and Epigenetics.
Kratos