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originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: LarryLove
I have gone out to eat with people who were overweight and usually they eat much much less than me. I have never in my life seen an overweight person eat and entire chicken or a kilo of grated cheese for lunch.
I, on the other hand, have sat down to an entire cheesecake with a fork, no need for a plate, and didn't gain a pound.
Yet, tell a person who is either of normal metabolism or low metabolism this and they will freak out... they would never dream of being able to do that. Most people can only have one slice or a sweet once a week...
I think it's a lie that fat people eat more than thin people do. I have yet to EVER see that.
I still think genetics plays a huge role.
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes
Then maybe we should be arresting all mother's who press food on their children? Jewish mother's first! "Eat my darling, I made chicken just for you"
Tired of Control Freakjs
originally posted by: Unity_99
Kids, in this case, preteens and teens, are people, and have some very strong opinions on their own.
They're not objects and they're not items. And its not up to you.
You're job is to buy groceries and offer choices of food within your budget, so unfortunately we can't all stock the fridge with non gmo organic produce and non gmo organic meats, and non gmo organic dairy, etc.
However, buying meats, produce, fruit, juice and some flavored crystals like ice tea mixes, tea, coffee, dairy, cheese, breads, soups, etc, carrots and veggies. And having treats once a week for stock up, is NORMAL. And people who are thin, and people who are overweight, all have these kinds of foods available for the most part.
ndeed, everything we know about human physiology points to the fact that it is as much (if not more) body weight itself that determines energy intake and output as vice versa. Generally speaking, heavier people tend to eat more because they have a stronger drive to eat and/or need more calories to function – in other words, body weight itself may very much determine energy intake and output (and not just the other way around). Similarly, losing weight tends to increase hunger and reduce energy expenditure – or in other words, changes in body weight can very much determine changes in energy intake and expenditure (and not just the other way around). Thus, the idea that we can control our body weight by simply controlling our energy intake and output, flies in the face of the ample evidence that it is ultimately our physiology (in turn largely dependent on our body weight) that controls our energy intake and output. - See more at: www.drsharma.ca...
originally posted by: OrphanApology
a reply to: Lady_Tuatha
Genetics has replaced demon possessions these days.
I understand why they did this as a 210 lb 11 year old is very much at risk health wise. It seems the better way to approach this would have been to place the entire family in an intensive program. My guess is child protection services had already been called for some other reason in past and we aren't hearing entire story.
Also, it is very rare where diet and lifestyle are not to blame for being overweight. It may be that the boy needs something like a Ketogenic diet(severe carbohydrate restricting diet) or something of that nature. But in no way can you just say that the whole family is "genetic" fat monstrosities. My guess is the whole family eats tons of carbohydrates and sit on their ass most of the day. Not rocket science to see what may be happening there.
I get really irritated these days when scientists say "genetics" caused this or that. There is so much we don't know about genes, how much they interact with each other at this point to be making assumptions like that. Also most of the time they don't even have a real control group to compare it with. It's scary.