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LGBTQ is forced on elementary students in schools without parents consent

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posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 05:31 PM
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Be sure to archive this before it disappears like so many threads before it.




posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: ~Lucidity

You are showing totally unrelated videos.

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Now. If you think this is porn, and if you think that kids at these levels aren't already fully aware, at times even in an ugly or generally misinformed way, you are sadly ignorant.

I smell something here, but it's not these films or their intentions.

Why are you exaggerating so badly and straying so very far off topic, even further than WND it seems, to prove some sort of point? It almost seems as if this frightens you?


The title of the thread is about sexually explicit content which is pro-LGBTQ that is being forced on children who go to elementary school. This does tie in with the whole curriculum of sexually explicit content being taught to children today without the consent of the parents.

BTW, just as a reminder, at what age do children start attending "elementary school"? I wonder why you are just trying to imply this sort of curriculum is only being taught to grown up teenagers who according to you "are ready to be taught this".

I have nothing against LGBTQ, and people should be respected no matter their religion, gender, sexual orientation, cultural background, etc, but to try to twist this and teach them sexually explicit content that is just pro-LGBTQ and doesn't have the same respect for people of a different race, or who are religious?

As the OP stated in the thread, there is no equal representation when it comes to showing respect for people's religious beliefs, or race. BTW, what is being discussed in this thread does tie in with the other sexually explicit content being forced on America's children these days.

If anyone is afraid, and if something really smells rotten here is your attempt at trying to dismiss these real concerns parents have. That's what is rotten.

Respect for people can be taught without forcing a point of view, or without showing sexually explicit content more so without the consent of the parents.




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posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

It wasn't an attempt to dismiss anything. Just my opinion. You're allowed one and I'm not, is that it around here anymore? Especially if it is not the same as yours? Okay.

I'm hardly afraid. I never overprotected my son or worried about his exposure to the realities of the world, such as different types of families or people or swearing or beliefs in religion or whatever. in fact, did quite the opposite and allowed it, and he turned out just fine, and is a strong and thoughtful human and leader and very well respected among his peers and anyone he encounters in this world.

So I just raised my child as I considered best and would not ever tell anyone else how to raise theirs. I don't feel that someone like a blogger or a WND or a FB post blowing small incidents out of proportion and then ranting about them on the internet is very useful. In fact, my opinion is that it might even be quite harmful and contribute to all the hatred flourishing in this world.

But I do understand the need some people feel to make mountains out of every molehill issue and how they are led down that path by media, social, corporate, and otherwise.



posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: nixie_nox
a reply to: LittleByLittle

Christians are only Christians for an hour and half on Sundays. I think I have met one, maybe two Christians who were not complete hypocrites and bad examples of their religion.

If you are a born again, I immediately don't trust you. Life has taught me that when you have a religion that gives you forgiveness and redemption, people use it to justify their bad actions and then get a clean slate on Sunday. Born agains are hiding some serious issues and behaviors behind their religion.



That's not entirely fair.

There are many, many devout Christians who live and breathe their faith every day. They're not the ones on the pews at the megachurch, or on the pulpit soliciting for donations to fund his extravagant lifestyle.

The real Christians out there are unsung heroes - in my hometown, there's a nunnery which runs an attached home for homeless mentally ill people. They take these people off the streets, give them a private room and a set of communal bathrooms, around the clock care for the elderly among them.

A friend of mine is one of them, an elderly mentally ill man who is also very intelligent. Loves to read and write poetry and c.n quote every work by Robert Frost by heart. He's on dialysis three times weekly, and one of the nuns drives him to and from the hospital for his treatment. These ladies are minor saints, honestly, and the most remarkable part of it is that almost nobody has a clue the kind of impact they're making on that one city of 10,000 people.

And there aren't just good, faithful Catholics practicing what Christ preached. There are thousands of thousands of Christians of all stripes out there doing Christ's work as He told them, but they don't tend to get much play. They don't go it for glory from men but for the glory of God.

I don't self identify as Christian at this stage in my life, but I'll be damned if I don't have a lot of love for the Christian faith and for all the unseen good that the Good Christians do every day.
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posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

It wasn't an attempt to dismiss anything. Just my opinion. You're allowed one and I'm not, is that it around here anymore? Especially if it is not the same as yours? Okay.

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But I do understand the need some people feel to make mountains out of every molehill issue and how they are led down that path by media, social, corporate, and otherwise.



Yes you are. You are even trying to belittle the arguments of people like myself... You are proclaiming your argument has more merit and that of others who think different than you have no merit and will cause harm...

I guess, even when you claim the opposite, you are in fact against teaching children to respect others without pushing an agenda... You seem to want to push an agenda on children, because that's pretty much what you are doing despite claiming the contrary.



posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: nixie_nox
a reply to: StoutBroux

Not true. Kids are not born knowing racism.



Then you missed my point. I wasn't trained to be "sensitive" to others. I was born tolerant and very open minded and I would venture to say that 95% of the population as a whole (in the US) are the same. The intolerant most likely did learn behaviors from their family members which would mean their whole families are infected with prejudices and a few films aren't likely going to affect their attitudes. And I also stand by my claim that the majority of students aren't biased or prejudice. It's the VERY FEW bigots who are causing the problems.



posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 07:58 PM
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Alriiiight! Yet another thread filled with quality debate, and thought-provoking discussion from the internet's top source for everything alternative.

Well done, everybody!



posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 08:19 PM
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The way I see it, I don't go around proclaiming my being straight to the world, and vice versa don't care to hear about others' sexuality.

Ultimately you're judged in the long run by your character, so what difference does it make?

I for one would be infuriated to hear my kid had to withstand this being shoved down her throat.



posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: oldetimehockey4

A quick question: you would be infuriated to hear that your kid was part of a class aimed at reducing bullying and teaching kids how to get along with each other?

Why?



posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 09:04 PM
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originally posted by: oldetimehockey4

I don't go around proclaiming my being straight to the world


Except when you do, like where you did it just now.

Look at the words you're choosing to use. Nobody's trying to shove anything down your daughter's throat. A film about equality is shown to the eyes, not shoved into any bodily orifices.
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posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 11:25 PM
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a reply to: Monger

Yeah, because Replying to a post on a website is exactly the same as proclaiming it at schools, in speeches to the public, etc...



posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 11:26 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Because bullying occurs for a spectrum of reasons, not just one's sexuality.



posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 12:11 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer
Progressive School Schedule 2014-2015 School Year.

0740 - 0750 Pledge of Non-denominational non-national acknowledgement of inferiority to other nations.
0750 - 0850 Morning self-esteem rituals.
0850 - 0950 Yoga and gentle stretching.
0950 - 1050 Patting Yourself on the Back
1050 - 1150 Being Kind to others, because you're hateful and white.
1150 - 1250 Michelle Obama Lunch Program (food optional)
1250 - 1350 Learning to be ashamed of yourself because you're straight.
1350 - 1450 Math, Reading, Social Studies, Science.



MWahahahahahahha....LOVE this.



posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 12:26 AM
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Man, these things get so hard to read. Gay Rights Supporters generally are the most vicious, defaming, and hateful people to ever argue a point. Just look at what happens to people if they speak out against or offend the homosexual agenda steamroller and it's Army of Acolytes...

They will make your children believe......



posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 01:29 AM
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a reply to: oldetimehockey4

The presentations didn't deal with sexuality but with several types of differences, race, religion, .

The presentations had been court ordered because of a young student being bullied almost to the point of suicide BY TEACHERS AND STAFF AT THE SCHOOL.



"Every day, lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people face discrimination, harassment and even violence because of who they are. In my case, I was called "ungodly," and told I was "going to hell" for my "sin." I was asked, "What are you, a man or a woman?" And I regularly had to hear that it's "not right to be this way."

What may surprise you is who my harassers were. All those comments came from teachers and staff at my old high school in Vallejo.


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posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 01:41 AM
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originally posted by: THE666OCCULT
Man, these things get so hard to read. Gay Rights Supporters generally are the most vicious, defaming, and hateful people to ever argue a point. Just look at what happens to people if they speak out against or offend the homosexual agenda steamroller and it's Army of Acolytes...

They will make your children believe......


Really? You see, in my experience, things are absolutely opposite to what you describe here.

For example, as evidenced in this thread, you have a few people who are still very comfortable with referring to LGBT folks as "perverted" and "unnatural" and trying to imply that sexual orientation (and gender identity) are defects rather than what they have been clearly proven to be and widely accepted to be by the medical, psychological and scientific communities for decades: aspects of human identity.

Opponents of equality always attempt to make the issue only about sexuality, thereby implying that such matters should be hidden and unspoken of. Sexual orientation is a part of our psychological makeup as human beings, and it's not just limited, as is so often projected by anti-equality efforts, to "who puts what where in the bedroom." "Sexual" orientation is really a description of who we are interested in emotionally and romantically ... as well as sexually.

Aside from LGBT folks demanding equality, the only "agenda" I regularly see (as clearly displayed in your post here) is a coordinated right-wing smear campaign implying that those who speak out for equal treatment are really the aggressors. It's a common tactic to attempt to portray bias and bigotry as somehow being victimized, and it's BS. In my opinion.

Like the silly threat at the end of your post "they will make your children believe" ... what? exactly? That gay people are people too? That they deserve to be treated with the same dignity and respect as everyone? That differences like straight, gay, white, black, latino, Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, etc . etc. are just the way people are and shouldn't be the basis of bullying ???

No, that kind of fear mongering isn't indicative of any kind of AGENDA at all, is it?
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posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 06:28 AM
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originally posted by: oldetimehockey4
a reply to: Gryphon66

Because bullying occurs for a spectrum of reasons, not just one's sexuality.


Exactly. And this program addresses a lot of those reasons, not just one's sexuality.



posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 06:56 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

So you really think that after a class of children as young as 5 are shown videos of same sex couples that zero discussion of sexuality will come up afterwards? Kind of like when the first kid raises his hand and ask where the same sex families mother is. I am sure kids will understand that a woman had to birth the child that two men are raising as their own. I am sure the child will have to be told how well" Johnny in the videos father had a child with a woman but then decided that he was homosexual so now Johnny's father and Johnny's father's partner frank raise Johnny. "

You are being disingenuous to try to prove your point because you support this idea or are really naive if you believe children wont have questions about something that runs contrary to the majority of their interactions and observations of families.
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posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 07:07 AM
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If you are going to public school your children, aren't you already aware that they are hearing about gays and the sexuality between gays? Don't fool yourself. They are hearing all of it and probably know more than you realize. If your kids are going to public school, then you must accept the fact that at some point, the LGBT issues will be taught via a curriculum, and it will be taught in THEIR way, in their format.

I home school, and I educated my children about gays and gay sexuality when I felt my children were mature enough to understand it. Even though I am conservative and do not support gay marriage, my children already have an understanding what it all means.

Look, I don't want my children to grow up and become bullies, and ostracize anyone because of who they are, even if I don't agree with it, or it doesn't follow my religious beliefs. It's not acceptable to me for my children to grow up and hate people just because they are gay, transgendered, etc. Like I said, I don't agree with it, but I can teach my children about it, and make them understand that we do not bully and mistreat others, period. The fact is, regardless of what a person is in life, they are still human with beating hearts and I will not disrespect someone, just because I don't like that they are gay, etc.

I suppose that may not make sense to some, but who am I to judge others?

I just don't want to get a phone call some day saying "Ma'am, your kid beat the hell out of another kid, because he is gay". I would die of shame.

I realize my opinions are not popular, but I don't believe in teaching our children to hate or ostracize others. This world is cold and harsh enough.



posted on Jun, 7 2014 @ 07:32 AM
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Sorry OP, what exactly is your problem?

You're using phrases like "kids should not be forced to 'question' their own identity"...are you one of those people who thinks that someone might "become gay" by watching this 'propaganda'? How is educating children irresponsible?

How can homosexuality be "propagandized" like the article claims? What are you talking about "issues which should not be forced"? Why should kids not learn about those things?

By the way the site you have this from..looks stupid to me, looks like just another right-winger-jesus-anti-homosexual site to me. Propaganda..right there.



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