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Megalithic Cultures: Were They Influenced by an Advanced and Forgotten Civilization?

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posted on Nov, 12 2017 @ 11:51 PM
a reply to: bloodymarvelous

Ochre does not equal iron ore, per se, it is decomposed iron ore with sand or clay mixed in.
It is from 20%-70% limonite(iron oxide) and hematite(also iron oxide).
Up to 60% of that converts to usable iron oxide after pre smelting heating, of which 70% will convert to pig iron.
But pig iron is not a usable form.
Now here is one thing nobody has mentioned, the shear amount of wood required to make iron.
Smelting the ore is not the only use, the ore must be heated to drive out the moisture.
Then wood must be made into charcoal before smelting. Charcoal is obtained at a rate of about 1 to 4 from wood.
But smelting the ore does not produce usable iron, it makes pig iron full of impurities.
The iron must be heated and beaten to force out the impurities.
I seem to remember that it takes 1600lb of wood to make one pound of usable iron.
As harte pointed out iron making leaves a huge footprint in the record when just considering the actual smelting proccess, but its footprint goes beyond just that.
Somebody has to cut the wood, some one has to haul it, somebody has to make charcoal, somebody has to haul the charcoal, somebody has to mine the silica rich rock for flux, and crush it and haul it as well.
Then there are the people mining, crushing, cooking and transporting the ochre.
Then there are all the other ancilliary jobs that go along with all those people, like farmers to feed them, potters to make the containers they will need, husbandrymen to raise the livestock use ti work the fields and haul the needed commodities.
And all of the infrastructure need to service the previous.
Also, any metal smelting operation leaves an undeniable mark on the environment.

posted on Nov, 16 2017 @ 12:07 AM
That assumes their technology mirrored ours. The few fully verified ancient technologies that are now lost (the aforementioned greek fire and Damascus steel) , are chemical technologies. Finding an alternative means of smelting iron is one of the few things that even mainstream archaeologists can't really put past an ancient society.

There is some kind of cobbled evidence from some sites in Egypt that the ancients understood sonic resonance, and especially directed sound/mechanical waves. Like these crystal bowls:

If you ever take a look at "Sacred Geometry", the principles it used would have laid a pretty workable framework for analyzing wave forms, without the need for modern computers. Using a compass and a square to essentially draw the equation, instead of adding numbers.

Cutting large stones by beating them with diorite would be a lot easier if you could make the diorite vibrate. Or smash some hot powder and cause it to liquefy by application of mechanical heating instead of fire.

However, if they were selling this iron oxide to sea faring traders, the traders would probably just haul the raw iron oxide back to their home and have it smelted there.

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