I've got to admit Sleeper, your "lefty" arguements are getting tiresome, well at least to me. Have you got anything else to dwell on?

Originally posted by sleeper
America is the most prosperous the most exciting, the most energetic, the most technologically advanced, the most beautiful, the most safe, the most democratic, and to some degree the most spoiled.

1.) Opinion
2.) Opinion
3.) I would actually think Japan is, but the technology is always more advanced then the public is allowed to be aware of.
4.) Opinion
5.) Opinion
6.) Lately I don't know if it is as democratic as intended.
7.) Opinion

America maybe the best place in the world to live and that in itself is quite depressing.

Originally posted by sleeper
The best thing about America is that we change our leaders on a regular basis.

Yeah your point is?

Look at the rest of the world and the UN----the leaders move in and stay until they die----look at Cuba.

One country, and the secretary of the UN was appointed by UN members, the world changes its leaders.

Western Europe is not much better, than Eastern Europe.

So now britian doesnt change leaders?
We have a dictator?
Thats what your saying right?

Look at Putin, tolerates Capitalism only when it suits him----then takes over private companies when they are ripe with success and profitable.

Really?
Takeing over a company would be better than to be ruled by them. Cough oil companies cough.

Once a lefty always a lefty----why work hard to create when you can watch others do the work then take it away when it's done----they like to call it wealth redistribution, I call it outright theft.

Really?
So wait let me see if i get you right here you think "lefties" steal things?
Want me to list what lefties in britain have done?

Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by RedOctober90
"Democracy" in the USA is now something like "Halliburton VS Microsoft" or some thing like that.. with no chance for other parties to actually make it into the elections.
It is capitalism which is incompatible with democracy.. for big business always gets into office over the man who actually has interests in helping the people.

You obviously don't live in America or if you do you should get out more often.

Anyone can become rich in America, anyone can run for public office in America, anyone can be poor in America, anyone can be corrupt in America---the corporations don't own anyone and are constantly being watched by their stock holders, the IRS, every branch in the government, the UN, the Middle East, Europe, Canada and most importantly by Santa Clause.

it is YOU who doesn't get out often. 'capitalism' IS 'left wing' when taken to the monopolistic extremes it is enjoying today. if you think you can go open a department store beside walmart and make it successful, i will willingly eat a thousand crow sandwiches.
or why don't you design a fuel-atomizing system that can give a tenfold increase in fuel economy? what? there is a law against it? what? someone actually did just that, and was visited by the FBI the day after he filed for patent?
red october is 'right'. there is NO DEMOCRACY in america. there is only mass mind control through propaganda. people think they are free, until they actually try and exercise freedom to do something that would upset the power balance that the power elite enjoy.
in a true democracy, they would welcome a better carburetor. 'lone wolf' inventors could enjoy the immense wealth generated by new inventions. the way it is, in your glorious 'capitalistic' society, only a multinational corporation will get rich on any given new invention, and the idea becomes the property of the corporation as well. the inventor might get a company logo coffee cup as a bonus for a good job, and the CEO will write himself a million dollar bonus. that's how america works, these days, and it has more in common with totalitarianism than it does with freedom.

the truest thing you said, was that, "most importantly, 'santa clause' was watching". using a=6, b=12, c=18, 'santa clause' is 666. 'satan clause' is more accurate.

Originally posted by sleeper
America is the best country in the world when it comes to freedom and prosperity---for those who wish to indulge in them.

Really?
Proof?..........oh wait there is none!
I would say the remote islands in south pacific have more personal freedom, since there are little law officers there.

However, we do not compel a person to indulge in all that is good in America.

No you encourage them to trampel on others.

American does have its dark side we called them Liberals or left-wingers, they are the "fly-in-the-soup" the "Chicken littles" who see only the bad in every thing, and when they find something good, like flies in the soup they spoil it.

OPINION!
Want the truth?
The truth is that companies control america, not the president.
This "left is evil" was propaganda by the US gov during the cold war, funny that huh.

Apparently there is no cure for that leftist disease as is apparent from some of the posts on this tread.

There is no cure because there is no disease.
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Nevertheless, America is still and will be far into the future the best place to live!

Really?
What about japan?
Spain?
they are just as good places to live as the US.
Dont try and put yourself above all else.

We're still waiting for proof of your claims Sleeper.

The left...(yawn)...

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You lefties are waiting for proof? Are you all in jail? Or are things in your left-leaning countries much worse than I believe?

The proof is obvious, if you live under leftwing so so sorry---and you many never be able to know the truth.

If you live in America or are able to travel----look out your window, get out of you cave, take a bus out of the leftwing ghetto and be amazed at what is out there in the worlds greatest country America!

It doesn’t get any better than America.

I’m not nationalistic, facts are facts.

Doesnt get any better than america.......if this is true then i will give up all hope of humanity.

By the way i live in Victoria, Australia......its alright down here, but its no paradise! The best local beach is st.kilda, wouldnt call it paradise!

Originally posted by sleeper
You lefties are waiting for proof? Are you all in jail? Or are things in your left-leaning countries much worse than I believe?

'left-leaning' canada leaves scary america in the dust. besides that, you can't 'prove' something subjective, mr. right-wing fanatic.




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Originally posted by sleeper
If you live in America or are able to travel----look out your window, get out of you cave, take a bus out of the leftwing ghetto and be amazed at what is out there in the worlds greatest country America!

If its so great, why are people living in the "ghetto"?
Ghetto? What,m you section out Jews over there? Facists. See? Bush is evil! (Joke, sleeper, before you defend your facist leader.)

But if its so great, why would I have to go just to the rich middle class areas to see the greatness? Everyone would 'have' if it was. But your arguments are repetative, foundless, and tiresome. Its like arguing with a wall.

Originally posted by Teh_Gerbil

Originally posted by sleeper
If you live in America or are able to travel----look out your window, get out of you cave, take a bus out of the leftwing ghetto and be amazed at what is out there in the worlds greatest country America!

If its so great, why are people living in the "ghetto"?
Ghetto? What,m you section out Jews over there? Facists. See? Bush is evil! (Joke, sleeper, before you defend your facist leader.)

But if its so great, why would I have to go just to the rich middle class areas to see the greatness? Everyone would 'have' if it was. But your arguments are repetative, foundless, and tiresome. Its like arguing with a wall.

Why do we have ghettos? Like I told you many times in my posts----we have lefties in America----many of our large cities have leftist mayors----but the rest of America is great, fantastic, marvelous, and prosperous----those who live in the ghettos can leave if they want to----however, many are addicted to all the free stuff the Democrats give them to keep them there.

America is ripe with opportunity and many from the ghetto have moved out and into the mainstream-----the ghettos are getting smaller----not because of the Democrats but because the land is valuable.

Everything in America is valuable----mostly the people, the workers, the CEOs.

Americans are not slaves as most people are in leftist countries are.

American ghettos are like middleclass areas in most countries, they have clean water, heat in the winter, air in the summer, free “real” food, medical, dental, good housing, schools, cars, public transportation---they live as well if not better than 80% of the people of the world.

You people have been sold down the river with that Socialist do do.

Originally posted by billybob

Originally posted by sleeper
You lefties are waiting for proof? Are you all in jail? Or are things in your left-leaning countries much worse than I believe?

'left-leaning' canada leaves scary america in the dust. besides that, you can't 'prove' something subjective, mr. right-wing fanatic.




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Who the heck would want to live in cold miserable places like Canada, unless they were running away from the draft or something else?

Canadians can be forgiven for hating Americans----Americans have it 100 times better than Canadians-----I understand your pain----and more so your envy.

Originally posted by wang
Doesnt get any better than america.......if this is true then i will give up all hope of humanity.

By the way i live in Victoria, Australia......its alright down here, but its no paradise! The best local beach is st.kilda, wouldnt call it paradise!

That's because you live in a leftist country----and know firsthand how bad life can be----and you believe that America is worse than what you already have.

Compared to what you have, that leftwing stuff----America is HEAVEN.

Sleeper = Il Dolce Pico!

You're American , son!
When does your Tour of Duty start? With your attitude, I highly recommend Infantry. Maybe Marines ...not too sure. Best of luck down in Ft. Bragg or Parris Island, whichever it is.

Bout time, in reference to your signature----if I snap my fingers you would fall out of that spell the Democrats have on you----unless you believe that stuff all on your own----ouch.

No doubt the Democrats are "intellectual" wannabees----however, they are far from it----the figures you speak of are slanted----the fact is that most lawyers are Democrats and there are lots of lawyers in America----lawyers like suing anyone with money and Democrats let them do it----Republicans are against ambulance chasing lawyers-----so the lawyers vote for Democrats.

Take all the lawyers out of the equation and the Democrats have lost "all" of their intellectual curve.


Democrats are made up of the poor and uneducated from our leftwing ghettos----and the vast majority of Democrats don't have college degrees.

Much of the leadership of the Democrats are highly educated lefties----with an attitude--and an agenda----kill the golden goose of Capitalism, and then the masses will belong to them to do as they please.

Perhaps you are one of the leaders?

Everything in America is valuable----mostly the people, the workers

Your osunding like a commie there son! I suggest you go exploit someone fast or you'll be red before we know it! We all know a good righty will side with the employer, not the worker. Stop being red sleeper.

Everything in America is valualbe hey? Yeah, right.

Originally posted by Teh_Gerbil

Everything in America is valuable----mostly the people, the workers

Your osunding like a commie there son! I suggest you go exploit someone fast or you'll be red before we know it! We all know a good righty will side with the employer, not the worker. Stop being red sleeper.

Everything in America is valualbe hey? Yeah, right.

Yeah, commies like a strange man on the street corner offering candy to a child, so that they can molest them, that is what the left does with the poor.

I think you'll find under any communist system most pedo's are shot or sent to labour camps for life as they commited a crime against the people.

I've noticed under the current capitalist way they seem to be releasing them back into society... which is wrong and bad.

Originally posted by sleeper
Who the heck would want to live in cold miserable places like Canada, unless they were running away from the draft or something else?

Canadians can be forgiven for hating Americans----Americans have it 100 times better than Canadians-----I understand your pain----and more so your envy.

You obviously don't know about British Columbia. My mother had flowering roses in January. We have as much diversity as any large nation. "Americans have it a 100 times better"? Let's let reality creep in here a little, the 2 countries are pretty much the same. Have you been to Canada mate? I have been to the States. BTW, we don't have any pain for you to understand, unless it's transference. Envy? I think that comes from your ballpark and it is preceded with a "P" word.

STILL waiting for proof!

the left...(yawn)...huh, whuzzat?

Australia a leftist country

Do you know ANYTHING about Oz? (You clearly know nothing about the US).

Who is the PM, how many elections has he won, which side of the spectrum does he come from?

Your anti-left statements are no longer tiresome, they're just stupid. You advance ignorance.