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Originally posted by Durden
Originally posted by sleeper
Unlike all the other countries in the world we do have some bad people,
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Now that's a Freudian slip if I ever saw one.
Originally posted by sleeper
I assumed that most people would know sarcasm without me having to explain it.
Originally posted by alien
I think its great for people to have a love for the country they reside in. As for America being more beautiful and more safe etc...well, this New Zealander would take issue with that...I can experience the beauty of a bustling metropolis, take a half hour drive to dense native bush to do some hunting or camping, or relax on pristine beaches...or another short drive to ski on some of the most picturesque slopes in the world. Gun-related crimes are still not that common, drive-bys are such a rarity they're maybe one of two a year across the whole country and I doubt we have ever once experienced a school-yard shooting or similar. We have suffered one act of terrorism, some 10 years ago, and that was perpetrated by our supposed 'allies' *cheers France*...
...but again, good to see love for ones home...
[edit on 30-11-2004 by alien]
Originally posted by Durden
Originally posted by sleeper
I assumed that most people would know sarcasm without me having to explain it.
Now, now. Don't get your panties in a bunch, I'm just messin' with ya.
Originally posted by sleeper
OK my panties are now un-bunched, but you have to admit that there are people in the world---mostly in Canada, France and Hollywood, that believe that or wish to make the world believe that.
Originally posted by Durden
Sure. As there are people in the US who'd like to believe the rest of the world are jealous of, and hate the US as well as its citizens. But these are nothing but gross generalizations which absolutely doesn't represent the views of the vast majority. And all that this accomplishes is creating animosity between the US and the rest of the world.
[edit on 2-12-2004 by Durden]
Originally posted by Frosty
Originally posted by General Zapata
*waves the flag* oh say can you see.....
tell me, oh enlightened one, what is it about capitalism that you don't like? Because obviously sweatshops, worker exploitation and environmental destruction doesn't bother you. How about visiting some of those countries where the products bound for consumption in the US are made? Do you think the people there are just as happy?
You're go
[edit on 30-11-2004 by General Zapata]
Typical Soc/Commy propoganda. I don't know if those people are happy, but they have JOBS (exploitation as you call it) because of what we consume. Do you really think they'd be better off twiddling their thumbs in the street making nothing? These "sweatshops" are the only means of income they have, and the sad thing is humanitarians want to take it away. Some say the conditions are bad, I agree but not all are and those that have poor conditions need new magement and reform which they are getting. Some humanitarians want to see better pay, so where does this money come from that they force the owners to disperse? From the people they lay off. They probably aren't just as happy, but they see what the US has accomplished in the past 150 years and think that if they allow US businesses to come in and set up shop they can reap the benefit, which is true.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
If you are not already, you should join a firearms rights organization like the National Rifle Association so that over time you can get legislation or even Constitutional protection for your rights to keep and bear arms.
Originally posted by sleeper
There is a reason the Communist sickle represents the grim reaper (death).
Communism and Socialism has been the death of millions who have fallen for the big lie.
Go to any country who is under left-wing madness and you fine the worse kind of poverty imaginable. All Third World Counties are under a left-wing despot. In these countries people look for food in the landfills, they live in shacks made of discarded junk. Live in sewage filled villages, drink contaminated water, while there masters the bureaucrats live like kings.
The left-wing sickle and hammer represents oppression and misery for millions of people around the world. The hammer to beat the people into submission, and the sickle to kill those who resist (Stalin murdered more than twenty million of his own people who refused to live under his repressive Communism---that is the legacy of the left.
[edit on 2-12-2004 by sleeper]
Originally posted by Frosty
I don't know if those people are happy, but they have JOBS (exploitation as you call it) because of what we consume.
These "sweatshops" are the only means of income they have, and the sad thing is humanitarians want to take it away.
Some humanitarians want to see better pay, so where does this money come from that they force the owners to disperse? From the people they lay off.
they see what the US has accomplished in the past 150 years and think that if they allow US businesses to come in and set up shop they can reap the benefit, which is true.
Originally posted by sleeper
Normally I am not a flag waver, however, in the last year America and all it represents has been relentlessly under attack by the American and European Left-wing machine---
I know what America is about---so the lies about America from the left are obvious----those who don't know the real America---those who have never seen it or been here---only have the lies and propaganda to go on.
To counteract the lies and propaganda that flows 24/7 the world needs to hear the other side---the truth.
If you choose to call that nationalism---so be it.
Originally posted by sleeper
The left-wing sickle and hammer represents oppression and misery for millions of people around the world. The hammer to beat the people into submission, and the sickle (grim reaper) to kill those who resist...
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yet no one seems to care---the focus is on Iraq---only because America is there fighting back.
Originally posted by sleeper
America has made it possible for millions of poor people who came here to become prosperous.
Before America freedom for the masses was unheard of.
America has liberated millions from the treachery of Left-wing domination and tyranny all over the world...
Originally posted by Durden
Yeah, you've shown that you love rambling this right wing propaganda. Anything of actual value you'd like to add, or is this all that you're capable of?
Originally posted by sleeper
I don't belong to any religious belief system but I know gloom and doom when I see it---and I see it in Socialism, Communism, and generally anything spewed from the left.
Originally posted by General Zapata
No, they have a way of not starving because of what you consume, and they are only in that situation to begin with because of what and how much you consume,and the monstrous corporations running your country.
You have COMPLETELY missed the point. WHY is that the only way they can survive? Why don't they just revert back to some agrarian, simpler lifestyle where they can make or grow all they need to not starve? Its because of their governments, who crack the whip for their corporate overlords.
No, layoffs only occur because those at the top want continued and ever-expanding profits. How often do giant corporations go out of business or are held accountable for their crimes? Hardly ever.
no, they think 'the corporations who have destituted us in the first place are now attempting to exploit us once more by giving us the money we need not to starve in exchange for obscenely cheap labour.'
Originally posted by sleeper
The left-wing sickle and hammer represents oppression and misery for millions of people around the world. The hammer to beat the people into submission, and the sickle (grim reaper) to kill those who resist (Stalin murdered more than twenty million of his own people who refused to live under his repressive Communism---that is the legacy of the left.
Today and every day hundreds of battles are raging against democracy in many parts of the world (mostly in Africa)---people are being killed by the thousands by left-wing despots, yet no one seems to care---the focus is on Iraq---only because America is there fighting back.
There are millions of people who live the life of freedom and prosperity under Capitalism.
There are millions of people who live in daily terror, poverty, sickness and oppression under Communist and Left-wing regimes.
Choose wisely which system you wish to live under
Originally posted by Durden This is like trying to have a discussion with a poorly written computer application.
Remember what I said in my previous post?
Originally posted by Durden
Yeah, you've shown that you love rambling this right wing propaganda. Anything of actual value you'd like to add, or is this all that you're capable of?
Guess that's really all you're capable of...