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originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Shadow1024
Scotland and England both have very proud self identity and no matter what the referendum outcome this will remain the case but they also share a common island, most are related to people on the other side of the border which is not noticible as there are no signs except on the roads and no customs checks at all, we share common armed forces and have for hundreds of years, are bound together in the war graves where scot and englishman, welsh and often irishman lie side by side as brothers in arms whom died for there nation of Britain (and not just there part of it), we often argue but most english north of birmingham feel more related to the scot's than there own southern neighbors whom we tend to think of as a european overspill into our country, especially since london is now no longer a british city ethnically speaking with british being the minority there, though this does vary from person to person and city to city of course even in the north.
Europe has always been over there to us and america with it's shared language and more progressive culture was more of an influence than france or germany ever were in the past hundred years, so much so that many indiginous brit's feel closer ties to america and of course canada, australia and new zealand than we ever could for europe whom stole our fishing job's, overfished our fisheries often using illegal techniques (spanish and portugese more than the french) and have on the whole rubbed many of us up the wrong way to our annoyance with our weak lilly livered government for letting them walk all over us.
Here is a question, if the british government had been more decisive and stuck up more for our british rights would the scottich referendum have been so important now and indeed would it even have gained the following it has as I actually think scotland is going to vote yes to independance and partition and how many of us brit's would happily vote simply to have the capital moved north back into our hands.
originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: dollukka
The thing is, in 1975 the British voted in a referendum for continued membership of what was then called The European Economic Community, EEC.
It was a vote to be a part of a free trade association, not political union. ...
originally posted by: eletheia
a reply to: Freeborn
Free Trading is supposed to be the reason behind the EU.... however the whole
world has traded since the beginning of time and with separate currencies too. ...
originally posted by: redeyeblue
... The EU was set up as a common market for better trade between countries, that has not worked out too well and now greater integration is needed to make the system work. ....