Wait what?? Did Ray Kurzweil did admit the US Army can cure any man made virus in 3 days??

So here i am watching this hour long lecture on future tech and what we can expect to see by the man and his trusty side kick michio kaku

In Abu Dhabi and then I get to the end roughly about 1 hour into the video and he drops this nugget of info.

Turns out the Kurzmeister has been busy with the US Army and a special response unit to deal with Biological terrorism specifically and he says that they can sequence any Viral DNA in one day and have an antidote.... after dropping that bomb he tries to brush it aside like" oh I could go into detail about the exact science behind it for days but suffice to say its all good folks"


Wait just one god dam minute good sir... Did he just admit that the United states Army has the power to not only sequence AIDS the Common cold and any other virus in one day and then have an ANTIDOTE for any virus in a couple of days????? This talk was in 2009 thats 5 years ago what the hell can they do now and why is AIDS even a thing???? Why is any virus a thing????

Luuucccyyyyyyyyy!!!!! chooooo got sum splainin to do!

Check it out for yourself...skip to 1:00:00 exactly for where he starts to talk about bio hackers so to speak.

It´s indeed what he says, however I think he takes it a bit out of context. Indeed, we can sequence any viral DNA within a day or days, but developing an anti-dote is an entirely different cookie. I think that´s what he gets wrong here. Sequencing a DNA pattern does not equal knowing everything about how it works and how to prevent it from working. That would require additional, time-consuming research.

originally posted by: RationalDespair
It´s indeed what he says, however I think he takes it a bit out of context. Indeed, we can sequence any viral DNA within a day or days, but developing an anti-dote is an entirely different cookie. I think that´s what he gets wrong here. Sequencing a DNA pattern does not equal knowing everything about how it works and how to prevent it from working. That would require additional, time-consuming research.

Well If he hadnt mentioned that he was working WITH the Army I would agree that he was taking it out of context but given his history not only with the R7Daspect of it but also the quality of intellectuals he surrounds himself with I would think it highly unlike he would make such a monumental leap of assumption. He has a singularity university that he is running in conjunction with NASA. He would destroy his reputation and all possible financial ventures by not knowing what he is talking about or conversely talking about what he doesnt know.

And lets be realistic here the idea that the Military are not prepared for a viral outbreak seems counter intuitive to the billions they spend on R&D and thats not counting black budgets that are off the books. Unless of course they release the virus with the cure well in hand and then it was a case of "oh look how smart we are we developed the antidote while doing my sunday crossword puzzle."

Either way seems like a cat out the bag moment how he tries to brush it aside like its trivial.

originally posted by: RationalDespair
It´s indeed what he says, however I think he takes it a bit out of context. Indeed, we can sequence any viral DNA within a day or days, but developing an anti-dote is an entirely different cookie. I think that´s what he gets wrong here. Sequencing a DNA pattern does not equal knowing everything about how it works and how to prevent it from working. That would require additional, time-consuming research.

You put it exactly as I thought.

That man has either no knowledge on how virus' work, or the US army is litterally 50-100 years ahead of the rest of the planet in genetic engineering, which is highly doubtfull, given the amount of money spend worldwide.

a reply to: TiM3LoRd

Why is any virus a thing????

Because having sickness free population is not in anyone's interest....except the people's of course.

To the people that don't seem to know who Ray Kurzweil is:

Kurzweil wiki

He is known as the "restless genius" for a reason and that reason isn't because he doesn't know what he's talking about.

An American author, scientist, inventor, futurist, and is a director of engineering at Google. Aside from futurology, he is involved in fields such as optical character recognition (OCR), text-to-speech synthesis, speech recognition technology, and electronic keyboard instruments. He has written books on health, artificial intelligence (AI), transhumanism, the technological singularity, and futurism. Kurzweil is a public advocate for the futurist and transhumanist movements, as has been displayed in his vast collection of public talks, wherein he has shared his primarily optimistic outlooks on life extension technologies and the future of nanotechnology, robotics, and biotechnology.

Kurzweil bio

Ray Kurzweil has been described as “the restless genius” by The Wall Street Journal, and “the ultimate thinking machine” by Forbes. Inc. magazine ranked him #8 among entrepreneurs in the United States, calling him the “rightful heir to Thomas Edison,” and PBS selected Ray as one of 16 “revolutionaries who made America,” along with other inventors of the past two centuries. He is considered one of the world’s leading inventors, thinkers, and futurists, with a 30-year track record of accurate predictions.

So, yeah. The Guy knows his stuff.

You did say man-made Virus'...

& while I believe that the Common Cold & AIDS are man-made...
Officially they're not, so he isn't really putting his foot in it here!!!


Peace everybody!!!

originally posted by: Thain Esh Kelch

originally posted by: RationalDespair
It´s indeed what he says, however I think he takes it a bit out of context. Indeed, we can sequence any viral DNA within a day or days, but developing an anti-dote is an entirely different cookie. I think that´s what he gets wrong here. Sequencing a DNA pattern does not equal knowing everything about how it works and how to prevent it from working. That would require additional, time-consuming research.

You put it exactly as I thought.

That man has either no knowledge on how virus' work, or the US army is litterally 50-100 years ahead of the rest of the planet in genetic engineering, which is highly doubtfull, given the amount of money spend worldwide.

In one of the many lectures or pdf-s I've read regarding conspiracies and UFO-s, I've read the following which has stuck in my head forever: For every year that goes by, us military advancement is calculated with 44 years.

And that was back in the seventies. Can you imagine how far ahead of the rest of the world this guys are?

I hate to bring up Doom Porn in this thread, but the antidote is for the rich and elite. The masses will perish, and those strong enough to withstand the devastation of the epidemic, pandemic, viruses, and the chaos will be studied as to how the human body mutated itself without science and technology to combat such events upon the host/body. They may get help or tossed away. But TPTB know a purge is a commin'

Regards,

I just want to add that there has been many successful cures and treatments for the most deadly of diseases and viruses many many years ago from wave length and energy particles to modern nano viruses.

a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

I know Ray Kurzweil very well, well not personally, but I have followed his blogs forever and I know he is a genius in the field of Artificial Intelligence and Futurism, but not in Virology as far as I know. A genius in one field does not make him a genius in any other, no matter how impressive his resumé may be. And besides, isn´t it a common trait among geniuses to make mistakes in trivial things?

originally posted by: RationalDespair
a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

I know Ray Kurzweil very well, well not personally, but I have followed his blogs forever and I know he is a genius in the field of Artificial Intelligence and Futurism, but not in Virology as far as I know. A genius in one field does not make him a genius in any other, no matter how impressive his resumé may be. And besides, isn´t it a common trait among geniuses to make mistakes in trivial things?

he may or may not be a genius but he is intelligent. And I think we have to take him on his word. Assuming that someone made a mistake because something doesn't fit a certain paradigm is dangerous in my humble opinion. Unless you can prove this special response unit he speaks of doesn't exist or can't do what he claims they can do we need to at least consider the option that it might be possible.

Keep in mind he is taking to some very wealthy people here who can have his claims verified quite easily. I belive he greets emirati royalty at the start of the talk. These guys are billionaires. Not conspiracy nut jobs.

Really good information we get from him.

From what he State:

-HIV cured in 5 Years

-Sars cured in 30 days

-Any new virus Can be cured in 1 Day.

-But he also talk about the Freedom fore everyone be allowed to continue conducting research in biological / Anti-virus in in the private sector...



Like freedom of speech, just as within said field

Let the People speech Want they Want.

He is correct in what he says and how he says it.

3 days is a MAX time limit.

They utilise small DNA folded 'packets' that carry molecular payloads. When they (the packets themselves introduced into the body) come up against the targeted cell type, the packets biological instructions makes them stick up against the outer wall of the target cells, and as per said instructions, 'open up' to deliver their cargo. This cargo interacts with the bad cells, and they 'switch off' and go inert, or just plain die right there as their ability to replicate is destroyed. Thus disease halted, pandemic averted.

Big time future with many riches for the team in the civilian world who created the 'suicide switch' for cancers.

a reply to: TiM3LoRd

Luuucccyyyyyyyyy!!!!! chooooo got sum splainin to do!

I find your info highly likely. Having said that, I think a long time ago, it wasn't "Lucy" that should be the one explaining.
Tetra50

originally posted by: tetra50
a reply to: TiM3LoRd

Luuucccyyyyyyyyy!!!!! chooooo got sum splainin to do!

I find your info highly likely. Having said that, I think a long time ago, it wasn't "Lucy" that should be the one explaining.
Tetra50

Yeah a lot of people have a lot of explaining to do. It's ironic that things like this leak out and are just brushed over as business as usual.

I wonder how many other truths have been revealed like this but people haven't picked up on it yet or nobody believes them. ...

You might be able to quickly develop a virus blocker, but unless you know the nature of cellular protein receptors and such, your "virus blocker antidote" might cause worse problems than the virus. (Could be disruptive to cellular functions.) It might be better than nothing as a last-minute approach, but should be handled like drug trials otherwise.

And sometimes the mechanism for virus-specific antibodies may cause an auto-immune response to one's own body as well. So that's not always a good option either. The technology is still not perfect, not in regards to doing most things, but in terms of understanding all the mechanisms involved.

Unless that stuff is covered, Ray might be jumping the gun a bit.

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haha maybe magic johnson should join the service

disease research is big business

sequencing doesnt lead to an antidote, to have an antitode you need materials, it only rells you what you need to gather to make anantitode, but the army doesnt have rare exotic plants on hand
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originally posted by: lecanard
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haha maybe magic johnson should join the service

disease research is big business

sequencing doesnt lead to an antidote, to have an antitode you need materials, it only rells you what you need to gather to make anantitode, but the army doesnt have rare exotic plants on hand
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excuse spelling sticky keyboard

Im sorry the only thing I could understand was the Magic Johnson comment and I assume that was in relation to the fact that he is supposedly cured of aids. Could you explain it in laymen terms as im not that smart.

originally posted by: Astr0
He is correct in what he says and how he says it.

3 days is a MAX time limit.

They utilise small DNA folded 'packets' that carry molecular payloads. When they (the packets themselves introduced into the body) come up against the targeted cell type, the packets biological instructions makes them stick up against the outer wall of the target cells, and as per said instructions, 'open up' to deliver their cargo. This cargo interacts with the bad cells, and they 'switch off' and go inert, or just plain die right there as their ability to replicate is destroyed. Thus disease halted, pandemic averted.

Big time future with many riches for the team in the civilian world who created the 'suicide switch' for cancers.

Perhaps if the "packets" fold in the wrong way, you have a prion disease, no?
Either way, you've described how pandemics can both be averted, and caused. Knowing how to fix something, unfortunately also teaches how to make it happen in the first place.

a reply to: TiM3LoRd

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Hahaa, it is ok friend. Let me illuminate these spectacular mathematics:

Even if the the army can sequence a cure, they do not readily possess the materials needed to cure a disease in one day, many of these things are heavily guarded by rogue states, not the mention the implausibility of this claim

Magic Johnson has access to these materials
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