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originally posted by: draknoir2
Same thing that qualifies a Ph.D in theoretical nuclear physics to be an expert on conspiracies, Thanatology, Ufology, Parapsychology, and Cryptozoology.
originally posted by: conundrummer
I have an anthropology degree but when it comes to cultural and archaeological stuff in ufology etc there's a strong sentiment that "mainstream archaeology" is just pulling wool over everyone's eyes, therefore any qualifications are automatically invalid and possibly even worse than nothing. So, credentials can be a double edged sword in this field.
Why is that?
Because we have a certain imagination what possibly could happen. This is based for example on stories, movies and dogmas. For many people this leads to fear.
When i initiated delibareted telepathic contact to an ET for the first time, i was very, very unsure and yes, i felt a little fear, i admit. But i learned a lot and i've a different perspective now...
originally posted by: AlienView
a reply to: Alfred2012
Interesting; I too have had contact with an 'alien mindset' - But the question is how do we know that we are not just channeling aspects or our own minds? A Zen Buddhist view of the world might indicate a universe which is in fact an all encompassing mind - we all may be part of one mind. That said, and if that is true, can you and your telepathic friends be sure that you and them [including me] are not just 'creating' an alien illusion which has the appearance of being real - but is in fact only 'real' to the minds so creating it? Are we sure that we are communicating with
'real beings' who have an 'independent consciousness' ? And what criterion could we use to prove to those ever present skeptics the validity of our claims
MY PERSONAL ET CONTACTS
When i had my first ET contact during an OBEE in August 2011 i was very irritated and overwhelmed. During this OBEE i visited a spaceship, met human looking ETs and received some information related to the history of mankind.
The number of contacts with ETs increased afterwards but contacts switched more and more to a telepathic communication in waking state.
That is the only easy question; None...for the most part these "debunkers" and "arm chair" skeptics have no real education; no degree in anything, with the possible exception of "Master's" degrees in "knee jerking".
I see it in almost all debunker types; they set up their own artificial standard, without any care for convention (scientific or social)and attempt to "rule" from this...non-existent place of authority.
My point is that going for, and actually getting a Ph.D. changes a person in ways that someone without said "Ph.D." can never understand. it changes the way One thinks about the world, how One expresses themselves. It alters the application of logic, and the very nature of that logic. It changes our perception of data, and the processing of that data.
Interviewer- Where is the science community on the topic of UFO's... is there a clear-cut definitive answer, yes there are UFOs, no there are no UFOs...
Shostak- You know, the scientists that I talk with are all skeptical... They're overwhelmingly skeptical that we are being visited because they feel if that were true, then the evidence would be stronger evidence. Most of the evidence is witness testimony and as it's been pointed out many times, witness testimony isn't very good when it comes to science. You don't decide on science, or the laws of science, on the basis of witness testimony. Or even the discoveries of science on the basis of witness testimony. So, I think that if we were being visited and somebody were to say look here's some physical evidence and we could really look at this carefully, that would be considerably more interesting. Some people in the UFO community will say, 'Yes, there is physical evidence'. I've never seen any that I found compelling. That's my take on it and have to say that's the take of most of the scientists I know.
originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
See how your argument of "education" falls flat on it's face in the world of reality? This is with someone with the education, knowledge, and desire to find intelligent life. I think you need to stick to your own personal belief and bubble you've created and not speak on behalf of the educated. You only come off... uneducated.
Just for some context. Are these still some of your "educated" beliefs?
1- You think you can summon UFOs at will or predict where they will be.
2- You believe the 'Starchild' skull could be alien.
3- You believe alien abductions could actually be happening.
4- You think aliens could be exact matches and indistinguishable from humans.
5- You think aliens have already addressed the U.N. G8 and G20.
Are you still up for providing skeptics and debunkers with a date, time, and place where you can summon UFOs at will?
originally posted by: MarsIsRed
No one to date has ever had contact, apart from the mentally insane.
originally posted by: radarloveguy
Many years ago .... more than 20 , I worked part-time for a shadowy govt. agency , that
will remain nameless , as an analyst .
On more than one occasion I was introduced to ET visitors , but I won't detail my experiences.
I will , however, describe one race physically .
The two individuals i met were ... very like us
2 metres tall, physically attractive
white skin,short blond hair
pointy ears, large blue eyes
three longer fingers on each hand , with longer opposable thumb
no tongue , communicated telepathically
They pose/d no threat , and my role was limited to communication
with those individuals.
I was also shown their ship , which was impressive ,
to say the least . .... maybe another time