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Catholic Jesuit Superior Resigns After Charged With Black Mass Child Sacrifices

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posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: manna2

we havent even begun to talk about adrenal chrome




posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: manna2
Ok, you are confusing yourself trying to find something scientic to support yourself. You mentioned the breakdown of proteins, i did not. So stay focused. When i ingest food high in protein whether it be plant or animal.i get great benefits. I even feel it. I thrive on pure, clean unadulterated animal protein. I did not seek infusions of the food. I ate it. So am i wrong and i imagine this? I really do not feel as healthy as i feel eating foods high in protein? I am an animal husbandman. I choose feed that varies in protein for various results at different stages for different results. Am i deluded to think this matters?a reply to: NavyDoc



I'd give you a star if ATS hadn't removed the option.



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: manna2
Heh, its the new neurons that form from young blood that has my senses tingling.a reply to: NavyDoc
For the West Coast team, led by Saul Villeda of the University of California, San Francisco and Tony Wyss-Coray of Stanford University, the effort began a few years ago with the discovery that when old mice are exposed to blood from young mice, their neural stem cells increase. The opposite was also found to be true: blood from old mice inhibited stem cell proliferation in young brains and hindered certain types of memory and learning [1].

I just do not see alot of studies over years for you to support that it is no big thing. But we do have a very long occult history for it with blood cults both then and now. In fact scientism can probably be a blood cult


And you don't understand the science of the thing. We have known that there are proteins in the blood that do various things from stopping bleeding to metabolizing carbohydrates to transporting cholesterol. Over time, we have studied individual proteins and determined what they did and where they were made. This is nothing new in that researchers see a certain physiological result and seek to isolate the protein that has the result, where it is made, how to isolate it, and how to deliver it. This concept is as old as insulin.

In Von Willibrand's disease (one of the bleeding disorders) the patient has defects in two blood proteins--VWF and Factor VIII. Part of the treatment is giving them those proteins that have been isolated from donor blood so that they can for clot and stop bleeding.

In this "anti-aging" research, scientists have found that younger animals repair tissue damage (in the brain being one of them, heart and muscle were also mentioned in several studies) than older animals. Through experimentation they found that the blood (well not technically whole blood--they used serum) had some benefit and then they went about asking the question "why" and they have found that younger people make more of a protein known as growth factor 11 (GF11) and they are now in the process of further isolating and evaluating that protein in possible treatment modalities. This process is no different or any more unusual than the process of discovering and using insulin and discovering and using VonWillibran's factor or stem cells or plasma.

Of course medical science is largely about blood--everything in your body is transported by the blood stream at some point. It's not magical, it's just the highway that gets stuff to where it needs to go.



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 09:54 AM
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originally posted by: manna2
Ok, you are confusing yourself trying to find something scientic to support yourself. You mentioned the breakdown of proteins, i did not. So stay focused. When i ingest food high in protein whether it be plant or animal.i get great benefits. I even feel it. I thrive on pure, clean unadulterated animal protein. I did not seek infusions of the food. I ate it. So am i wrong and i imagine this? I really do not feel as healthy as i feel eating foods high in protein? I am an animal husbandman. I choose feed that varies in protein for various results at different stages for different results. Am i deluded to think this matters?a reply to: NavyDoc



See this shows that you do not understand the science. You ingest protein, your digestive system breaks it down into it's component parts and then uses those parts to build proteins of their own.

A specific protein, say one that reduces damage to neural cells, is comprised of several protein building blocks to do a specific task. Like insulin for example. If you would take this protein orally, like insulin, your digestive system would break it down into it's component parts and it would cease to be insulin and would no longer have that function. This is why diabetics can't drink their insulin and why the evil one percent blood cult won't be drinking baby's blood to keep their brain healthy.



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 10:18 AM
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What? That is so isolated it is creepy. So to get the benefits of food i need to understand the science behind isolated and obviously funded studies? My whole entire point is simple. The people involved with occult activity that includes drinking blood from young and innocent children already know from anecdotal proofs that scientism is even beginning to support. Your demands that isolated studies equate to the absolute final say when it is clear they just started in trying to understand what these occultists first learned and passed on now for thousands of years. My attempts at appealing to you from an anecdotal level surely has failed in making you defend scientism instead. I can assure you that your scientific knowledge surpasses mine as does my knowledge of health and wellness and animal husbandry far surpasses yours. I am forced to always examine the anecdotal evidence to further my personal(health and wellness) as well as business (animal husbandry) in order to function and thrive. I do not need new explanations for old tried and true science. When it comes to this topic, you are in its infancy. You talk of growth factors where science cannot even begin to understand it. Gas chromotography barely allows any chance of understanding the process. They can only see the results, not the how and why. Science when it comes to health and wellness gets stuck in isolation. Way too compartmentalized due to who funds the study. They can tell you that going in wild yams have vitamins, minerals and enzymes, but they cannot tell you how it somehow turns cholesterol into pregnenolone, the precursor to all your hormones. They can see th results but cannot even begin to describe the why.
my point is that scientism gets stuck in isolation. And this topic is in its infancy. I see the results and know better. What i eat and ingest is what is important to me based on good science supported by the anecdotal. I do not need too much science to know this. I certainly am not interested in vials of scientific food because that is what they isolated in a lab. For instance, brown rice or the injection of isolated vitamin a that is scientifically made in a vial to be sold as food? You see, the latter is scientism at work looking to make a profit for who funded the studya reply to: NavyDoc



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 10:21 AM
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a reply to: sled735




Well? I haven't got all day. I need to go to bed!!
(Reply to tsurfer2000h)


What about the picture do you want to discuss?

And since you want to go there how about the source for the pic?

I guess you really didn't want to discuss the pic that bad did you?
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posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: manna2

Anecdote does not equal data. There are a lot of scientific principles behind animal husbandry. Drop rotation may have been developed because over time people noticed that their land did better if they planted certain crops in a certain order over time and this is a scientific principle of observation and testing hypothesis--they just didn't call it that. Now we know scientifically how it works.

If you think that scientists work in isolation, especially when dealing with the human body, you are very mistaken.

Now, you "know" that there are blood cults and you "know" that there must be something magical in blood because you "know" they are better off when they drink blood--is that about the gist of what you are saying? This is even worse than anecdotal "data" because I doubt you've participated in baby blood drinking rituals yourself, yes? You kind of go by unsubstantiated claims made by other people that you've read, yes?

Certainly we can see where ancients thought blood had mystical powers because they didn't understand things like oxygen transport and Krebs cycles. All they saw was that if you lost enough of it, you would die and therefore it was a life-giving fluid and that lack of knowledge was transmuted to a supernatural value that people then incorporated into spiritual worship.

However, outside of hysterical conspiracy theorists who work with almost no real evidence or even real anecdotes and, like the subject of this thread, have to entirely make up things to support their premise, we don't see any evidence ot support wide spread "blood cult" activity in any organized body, much less one as large as the Catholic Church. Sure, you get your Richard Ramirez nutjobs occasionally, but "Eyes Wide Shut" grand conspiracies by the world leaders to drink the blood of babies? C'mon. Profit and money conspiracies are believable, certainly and a matter of another discussion.



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 10:30 AM
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It is you that is stuck trying to make one component work for your own understanding. This is about so much more than an isolated protein. It was you that brought up growth facors and fail to understand it. I claim that you are addressing less than 1% of the implications behind any supposed benefits from drinking blood vs whateva scientism claims at this moment. I eat food for its obvious benefits. I drink water for its obvioud benefits. I do no drink blood. But many have for thousands of years. I dont need scientism to decide to eat or drink nor do the cultists need scientism to support their ongoing activities. They do it for the results. You claim they need scientific approval. You say you got it figured out for them and blood infusions into mice proves they got it wrong. Now


give me all the science you have on drinking young blood. And please do, add the science you have on the same with adrenal chrome added to the mix. What i am claiming is simply this. Scientism has begun to admit what they have known for thousands of years.a reply to: NavyDoc



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 10:43 AM
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Bohemian grove comes to mind. They have a cremation of care ceremony that is said to be ancient. What is public is that it is a mock sacrice with a fake victim. That may be true. Then again it may not be true. To me the mock cereny is just as bad, as if it is real. I mean wtf? Cremation of care? Wtf?a reply to: NavyDoc



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 10:52 AM
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Hey, lets shift gears. You avoided the adrenal chrome aspect here. What is the science behind adrenal comaffin? Do you feel this would be important to the topic? Do you really think there is a black mkt for it? a reply to: NavyDoc


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posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: manna2
It is you that is stuck trying to make one component work for your own understanding. This is about so much more than an isolated protein. It was you that brought up growth facors and fail to understand it. I claim that you are addressing less than 1% of the implications behind any supposed benefits from drinking blood vs whateva scientism claims at this moment. I eat food for its obvious benefits. I drink water for its obvioud benefits. I do no drink blood. But many have for thousands of years. I dont need scientism to decide to eat or drink nor do the cultists need scientism to support their ongoing activities. They do it for the results. You claim they need scientific approval. You say you got it figured out for them and blood infusions into mice proves they got it wrong. Now


give me all the science you have on drinking young blood. And please do, add the science you have on the same with adrenal chrome added to the mix. What i am claiming is simply this. Scientism has begun to admit what they have known for thousands of years.a reply to: NavyDoc



Yet we know why you need to drink water. We can map out and explain the processes that waters is needed for. We know how eating food (at least healthy food) makes you feel better.

Blood infusions into mice haven't proven they got it wrong. Science has been using blood and experimenting on it and isolating the various things in it that do various tasks for a long time. From insulin to VWF we have isolated things in blood and utilized them to treat various ailments that not so long ago were subjects of superstition (see Rasputin).

How does furthered advancements in science verify primitive superstition where blood is regarded? No #, blood is life and since blood transports everything we need to live, we have and will continue to find various treatments and solutions to problems by experimenting with it. You accuse scientists of taking things in isolation but you seem to be the one that cannot look at the big picture about blood, what it does, and what is found in it.

The fact of the matter is that the myths of blood arose from people seeing that one died when the lost enough of it. Blood is life, most certainly, and since they did not understand why, they put mystical powers to it. We have since then learned why blood is important and it is important because EVERYTHING your body needs is transported by it and many of the cells that are in what the layman calls "Blood" (and yes, it is not just a single cell that makes up the system) produce things that we need. This is not a new and crazy discovery and yes, we continue to discover new things but the principle--that we need the stuff in blood to survive--has been around a long time.

You drink water because you are thirsty and you will die without it. We know why. People will die if they don't have blood in them and we know why. Primitives knew they would die without water but they didn't know why so they imbued it with magical properties.

There is no evidence anywhere that drinking blood has kept anyone young and the myths and stories are exactly that-- myths and stories just as there is no chariot that pulls the sun through the sky we have learned why this is not possible. You eat a rare steak or drink a cup of blood you have the same effect.



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 11:05 AM
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A black market in it? Don't know. Haven't seen any evidence of one but, since people seem to be a bit gullible when it comes to medical quackery, it is possible.
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As for it as a substance, it does exist and has some limited uses such as stopping capillary bleeding. They whole psychedelic, Hunter S. Thompson, thing was a fabrication and has become a counter culture myth.
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posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: NavyDoc
a reply to: manna2

A black market in it? Don't know. Haven't seen any evidence of one but, since people seem to be a bit gullible when it comes to medical quackery, it is possible.


If there's a black market in human skin, I'm perty sure there'd be one for young blood.

www.nydailynews.com...



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: Psynic

originally posted by: NavyDoc
a reply to: manna2

A black market in it? Don't know. Haven't seen any evidence of one but, since people seem to be a bit gullible when it comes to medical quackery, it is possible.


If there's a black market in human skin, I'm perty sure there'd be one for young blood.

www.nydailynews.com...


Medical grade tissue grafts, not back-room illuminati, cults. The article has nothing to do with black markets, so I don't even see where you get that. What I see is a salesman for the graft company who took advantage of poor accounting practices to order product he didn't deliver. Presumptively, because then he could then turn it around and sell it to the hospital in the next town over as new product. However, I know how skin grafting works and yet no one can tell me how drinking blood makes one young.

People inject themselves with human growth hormone now in an effort to be young. You have to inject it because drinking it destroys it. If one could isolate s similar substance will people want to inject it? Certainly. Will it result in kids being kidnapped off the street...no, because such things can and are now isolated from donor blood. You might see theft from pharmaceutical companies, I guess.
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posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 11:21 AM
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So you do admit there is no science done on drinking blood? Got it.
a reply to: NavyDoc
See, now you are ignoring the fact that there are natural ways and assuming only science can do what we all know the body can do. There are foods and herbs that cause hgh even in elderly. And the body simply produces this stuff without scientific help. Wild yam is one hydroxy molecule off from cholesterol and it produces pregnenelone which is the precursor for all the hormones. Science can see it happen but not tell us how. The body knows how to utilize it.
We dont need science to verify it happening to get the results and vitamin a in a capsule or pill is not the same as brown rice
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posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 11:29 AM
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I suppose that picture of the Pope kissing that boy is photo-shopped too.



And are you saying this couldn't be?

Take a look at this...

www.reuters.com...

and then we have this...

www.reuters.com...

Not hard to photoshop a picture to back a claim. And I am not saying you did the photoshop, unless you did the photoshop.
(No I don't believe you actually photoshopped the pic).



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 11:34 AM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: sled735




I suppose that picture of the Pope kissing that boy is photo-shopped too.



And are you saying this couldn't be?

Take a look at this...

www.reuters.com...

and then we have this...

www.reuters.com...

Not hard to photoshop a picture to back a claim. And I am not saying you did the photoshop, unless you did the photoshop.
(No I don't believe you actually photoshopped the pic).


Yeah I guess you're not since the proof of it's authenticity is in your second link.

The Vatican isn't suing anyone over the publication of pictures of the Pope 'Frenching' children.



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 11:43 AM
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So even if all of history on the subject of drinking babies blood is false and bogus, we are sure going to see alot more about new cults that seek this elixer.


And how many of those cults are going to keep doing it when their members are either dying or very sick drinking blood that has not been properly handled?

You see drinking blood is not a healthy way to use it's properties.


The strange fact is, blood, when drank, is toxic. When confined to places where blood is supposed to be — such as the heart, vessels, and so on — it is essential for life. But when ingested it's a very different story. Of course all toxins have doses, and just as a tiny bit of poison won't necessarily harm you, the more you eat or drink, the greater the danger. [7 Strange Ways that People Act Like Vampires]


www.livescience.com...

And the last time I checked not too many cults have medical facilities to properly handle blood, but if you know of some please share.



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 11:49 AM
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Yeah I guess you're not since the proof of it's authenticity is in your second link.

The Vatican isn't suing anyone over the publication of pictures of the Pope 'Frenching' children.


And that photo doesn't show the Pope Frenching children either, or are you seeing something different?

And you seem to miss the point, because as you saw photos can be manipulated to show what someone wants you to see so that it backs whatever claim they want to make.

So now do you know if that is the original pic that may or may not have been manipulated?



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 11:58 AM
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originally posted by: manna2
So you do admit there is no science done on drinking blood? Got it.
a reply to: NavyDoc
See, now you are ignoring the fact that there are natural ways and assuming only science can do what we all know the body can do. There are foods and herbs that cause hgh even in elderly. And the body simply produces this stuff without scientific help. Wild yam is one hydroxy molecule off from cholesterol and it produces pregnenelone which is the precursor for all the hormones. Science can see it happen but not tell us how. The body knows how to utilize it.
We dont need science to verify it happening to get the results and vitamin a in a capsule or pill is not the same as brown rice
paring apples and kumquats. You eat a rare steak, it has blood in it. How is drinking a cup of blood any different. Of course there is no science behind drinking blood as any special thing--because there isn't. You seem to think that because a myth is long standing and widely accepted (drinking blood isn't widely accepted anymore anyway) that there just has to be some validity to it. History shows us differently however, eating all of the rhinoceros horn you can, even though that a lot of people think it does, will not make your penis any larger.







 
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