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Robert Bergdahl Praises Allah During White House Rose Ceremony...

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posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: MarlinGrace

originally posted by: sk0rpi0n

originally posted by: MarlinGrace

originally posted by: sk0rpi0n

originally posted by: MarlinGrace

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I see this thread proves that rabid Muslim hate is still alive and well inside of America still. Thanks a lot Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney...




Muslims trying to instill Sharia Law in this country, since when does an immigrant get a legal system of there own?.

I guess since Jewish immigrants got to live by their own legal system (Halakha law) ? Shariah is no different from Halakha in the sense that they apply only to practicing Muslims/Jews, not every American. Shariah is not being 'instilled' by replacing american law . It simply deals with civil matters such as marriages and property and diet. And no, shariah does NOT override the US law.


Phoniex Honor Killing This would be pretty uncivil by anyones standards unless of course you consider Sharia Law.
you asked a question, I answered it and gave an explanation on as to how shariah isnt being instilled as you alleged. You know fully well that isolated incidents like the one you posted are not ''proof'' that Sharia is being ''instilled'' in the us.


And you my friend know fully well this isn't an isolated incident, I even gave you a link with many cases in courts now. I was asked for an example and when you get one it still isn't good enough. How many court cases would it take before you think there is an issue? 10 , 20, 30 50?

Is this link good enough? City in Michigan First to Fully Implement Sharia Law


This is not true re: Dearborn implementing Sharia law.

There is no Sharia Law in Dearborn
The National Report is a satirical website.

www.snopes.com...
www.heritagefl.com...

Might be worth checking what you think is true before claiming them as 'facts'.
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posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 09:37 AM
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Are we at war with a religion?

The War on Terror" (in my opinion) is a convenient money maker. But that doesn't take away from the fact that there are those who would wish to see the destruction of the west/America.

So let's be honest here.

If we aren't at war with a religion, then why the fighting? Why the animosity? Why the hate?

Is a religion at war with western values?

As far as I'm concerned, the father could praise Gumby.

But I don't see elements of Gumby or Pokey at war with us. . . . . .



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: beezzer

To pretend to not see the issue is disingenuous at best.

If his son had been held hostage at McDonalds for five years we would not expect the fathers first public words to be "praise Ronald". Let use not act as though his son was not supposedly held captive by Muslims for five years. How does the Father of a captive son suffer from Stockholm Syndrome? He converted because his son was captured? That is odd to say the least.

We are not at war with religion by any means. But to act as if one side is not dominated by a religion is blinding yourself to the truth.



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 09:49 AM
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A reminder of what Obama ILLEGALLY traded five terrorists for ...

NY Post - Bergdahl Statement

Bergdahl also complained about fellow soldiers. The battalion commander was a “conceited old fool,” he said, and the only “decent” sergeants, planning to leave the platoon “as soon as they can,” told the privates — Bergdahl then among them — “to do the same.”

“I am ashamed to be an American. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools,” he concluded. “I am sorry for everything. The horror that is America is disgusting.”

Bob Bergdahl responded in an email: “OBEY YOUR CONSCIENCE!


The SOB deserted his post ... he hated America ... and he joined the enemy. It's just that simple. He should have been left there to rot. I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent that the UCMJ can do. And then prosecute Obama for breaking the law and not notifying congress of his intent to play with his Muslim extremist terrorist buddies.
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posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: 200Plus

I'm not in disagreement with you.

Just putting it in perspective. Perhaps I wasn't clear.


If we had performed a trade for Japanese soldiers during WWII, would the father have praised "Shinto"?



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: beezzer

My apologies for sounding short.

I honestly think the father is a little "touched". Secondary PTSD maybe?



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: beezzer

We are at war with a religion and culture that is a direct threat against EVERYTHING we as Americans believe in…. constitutional democracy, private property, free market capitalism, the right to bear arms, women's rights, individual liberty, free speech, etc. If ANYONE that calls themselves an American doesn't see how Islam and the average Muslim is a direct threat to the way of life we as Americans have come to love they are ignorant about freedom and liberty and should refrain from calling themselves Americans. Yes our government is corrupt. Yes we have a lot of problems in this country with corporations, tyranny etc. But you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. America was founded by men that envisioned a place on earth like no other the world has ever seen. That is something to hope for, and that is something to strive for despite all the adversity that exists nowadays. Americans don't give up without a fight. We can still save the Republic……and preventing Muslims and Islam and anyone else or anything else from destroying our western civilized country is a noble figtht!



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 10:42 AM
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And I'll add Mr. Bergdahl and his son are a disgrace to not only the men and women who wear the uniform but also to EVERY freedom and liberty loving American. To see this clown on youtube stand up there with his idiotic Islamic garb and beard speak in Pashtun as if he's some sort of pariah is a joke. The town of Ketchum should have kicked him and his stupid wife out and never let his son come home. But now that wouldn't be too American would it?



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: cuckooold

originally posted by: MarlinGrace

originally posted by: sk0rpi0n

originally posted by: MarlinGrace

originally posted by: sk0rpi0n

originally posted by: MarlinGrace

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I see this thread proves that rabid Muslim hate is still alive and well inside of America still. Thanks a lot Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney...




Muslims trying to instill Sharia Law in this country, since when does an immigrant get a legal system of there own?.

I guess since Jewish immigrants got to live by their own legal system (Halakha law) ? Shariah is no different from Halakha in the sense that they apply only to practicing Muslims/Jews, not every American. Shariah is not being 'instilled' by replacing american law . It simply deals with civil matters such as marriages and property and diet. And no, shariah does NOT override the US law.


Phoniex Honor Killing This would be pretty uncivil by anyones standards unless of course you consider Sharia Law.
you asked a question, I answered it and gave an explanation on as to how shariah isnt being instilled as you alleged. You know fully well that isolated incidents like the one you posted are not ''proof'' that Sharia is being ''instilled'' in the us.


And you my friend know fully well this isn't an isolated incident, I even gave you a link with many cases in courts now. I was asked for an example and when you get one it still isn't good enough. How many court cases would it take before you think there is an issue? 10 , 20, 30 50?

Is this link good enough? City in Michigan First to Fully Implement Sharia Law


This is not true re: Dearborn implementing Sharia law.

There is no Sharia Law in Dearborn
The National Report is a satirical website.

www.snopes.com...
www.heritagefl.com...

Might be worth checking what you think is true before claiming them as 'facts'.


And what of the court cases link?
Or this link Sharia Patrols in Dearborn
Or this link:
Legislators in at least 32 of the 50 U.S. states introduced bills from 2010 to 2012 to limit consideration of foreign or religious laws in state court decisions, the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life reports.

Do you think this has happened because they are not trying to change our system?

There are plenty of additional links if you want to use google.



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: Expat888
a reply to: Xtrozero

Many have converted of their own free will .. among some of the more famous the singer cat stevens comes to mind he converted a few years ago if recall correctly ..


I guess my point would be, did Cat Stevens have his son held prisoner when he converted? This is the part I find weird. The son converting is a no brainier since he left his post and walked into their open arms.



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX
The bible says a whole bunch of crazy stuff also which is promptly ignored by even the most devout (check Leviticus to start for a laundry list of crazy).

Probably not good to check the source material for a interpretation of how a religion is overall...better to simply talk to some of the average folks within that religion.



Why not? The Qu'ran is the essence of Islam and should be followed by all Muslims and with that, why would a Muslim want to join the US army to fight against other Muslims? This is against Islam. Is the USA an Islamic country? Western Islam is not true Islam.. It is a counterfeit to suit the secular way of life so asking many Muslims in my country is just a waste of time.


And from your second post under this one...
wtf is a "atheist muslim"...that's a oxymoron


I'll put it another way... Someone who proclaims to be a Muslim, Christian or Jew yet knows they are not. In otherwords, A bs artist or a deceiver. An example is Extremists, Benjamin Netanyahu, even Obama. Netanyahu in his own words is an "Atheist Jew". In otherwords, he is not a Jew..
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posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: GreenMtnBoys

I can tell you right now that your country is not at war with Islam.. How is your country at war with Islam when your country is sending money and weapons to Islamic Extremists who then go on to massacre innocent Muslims? Take a look at what your tax dollars have done to some of the countries in the Middle East.. It's not what happens in your country that concerns Islam, it's what you's have done outside of your country (the things that Muslims see in front of their eyes) that concerns them ad draws hatred towards your country.. It's your own fault to be honest.


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posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: DarknStormy
a reply to: GreenMtnBoys

I can tell you right now that your country is not at war with Islam.. How is your country at war with Islam when your country is sending money and weapons to Islamic Extremists who then go on to massacre innocent Muslims? Take a look at what your tax dollars have done to some of the countries in the Middle East.. It's not what happens in your country that concerns Islam, it's what you's have done outside of your country (the things that Muslims see in front of their eyes) that concerns them ad draws hatred towards your country.. It's your own fault to be honest.




are u fn serious,,,"not at war with Islam",,,
remember this guy,,? or too far back in history,,,
not at war with Islam,,wow,,



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 12:00 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome

So you find a picture of a guy with some strange words and blame Islam? Have you ever asked yourself whether what he is saying is even Islamic or taught in the Qu'ran? The problem with you people is you jump on the bs wagon without searching for the true answers yourself. If you were in a war with Islam, you wouldn't have people like him only fighting you, you would have every Islamic nation and people fighting against you as one and today that is not happening.

Islam is not Extremism and true Muslims will not fight with Extremists. You haven't seen anything I'm sorry to say. Modern day "Islamic" Extremists are the product of a Western sponsored Jihad which is contrary to the teachings of Islam in the first place. If these Extremists are not following the teachings of Islam, then they themselves are not representing Islam but the agenda or goals of something else.




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posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: DarknStormy

Oh excuse me let me clarify things for you…….WESTERN CIVILIZATION is at war with Islam and Muslims. If you don't believe that you aren't paying attention. You need to look at the bigger picture. I don't agree that our foreign policy is just and right. We need some serious change in US foreign policy. But just maybe, JUST MAYBE our leaders are privy to information and threats the average American is not. Do people like you ever think about that? Maybe the world is much more evil than you think and just maybe it doesn't matter what we do as the United States people will hate us. Or worse maybe just maybe the lifestyle you have come to rely on is propped up by our foreign policy of death and destruction? Take to heart that last sentence because it affects us all. We are all part of this mass hyper consuming culture in the west. That I can agree with is probably what forms the bulk of our foreign policy. We are 1% of the population consuming 25% of the world's resources. So instead of siding with Islam and Muslims and bitching about our leaders and corrupt government maybe we as Americans and as individuals should try to change our way of life. Maybe we should stop consuming and say enough is enough. You know what? It will never happen because yes the average American loves the lifestyle our foreign policy provides us. No matter how many useless wars are waged and how many countries we topple, control, and otherwise destroy. Maybe Americans are very much parasites. But that does not mean our ideology and what we used to stand for is flawed. That doesn't mean Sharia Law and Islam is a better way of life than western civilization. Islam is a step back into the dark ages PERIOD! And if that means we have stomp it out throughout the rest of the world so be it. Because if we don't it will come home to destroy our way of life and everything we believe in taking the civilized world with it.

You want Islam? Go move to Pakistan. It's a great country!
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posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: DarknStormy
a reply to: BobAthome

So you find a picture of a guy with some strange words and blame Islam? Have you ever asked yourself whether what he is saying is even Islamic or taught in the Qu'ran? The problem with you people is you jump on the bs wagon without searching for the true answers yourself. If you were in a war with Islam, you wouldn't have people like him only fighting you, you would have every Islamic nation and people fighting against you as one and today that is not happening.

Islam is not Extremism and true Muslims will not fight with Extremists. You haven't seen anything I'm sorry to say. Modern day "Islamic" Extremists are the product of a Western sponsored Jihad which is contrary to the teachings of Islam in the first place. If these Extremists are not following the teachings of Islam, then they themselves are not representing Islam but the agenda or goals of something else.





so i guess an actual event like the kidnapping of the 200 girls ,,by some guy,,as u put it,, aint good enough, ,
how about some history with the pic then,,
quote
"Islam institutionalized slavery. Muhammad began to take slaves after he moved to Medina, and had power.
Slaves were usually taken in raids on nearby Arab tribes, or war,
either through offensive or defensive actions.
Islam allows the taking of slaves as "booty", or reward for fighting.
This has led to numerous "jihads" by Muslim states and tribes to attack other non-Muslim groups and obtain slaves. Islamic jurisprudence laid down regulations for the proper treatment of slaves. However, abuses have occurred throughout history."
unquote.

kind of building a foundation u see?



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: lovebeck
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Why? I never said anything about it being "concerning."

You did.





Why did you put this in Political Madness then? Geez Louise at least be freaking honest.
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posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: GreenMtnBoys

How many times has an Islamic country tried to invade the USA? Too me that would be a provocation and a declaration of war.. It hasn't happened, you are not at war with Islam, you are at war with Extremists who use the Islamic label and nothing more.



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: DarknStormy
a reply to: GreenMtnBoys

How many times has an Islamic country tried to invade the USA? Too me that would be a provocation and a declaration of war.. It hasn't happened, you are not at war with Islam, you are at war with Extremists who use the Islamic label and nothing more.



glad u bought that up,,it reminded me,,,




"How many times has an Islamic country tried to invade the USA" u count it and see for yourself.



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome

Quote a part of the Qu'ran that clearly states what you just said.... If it didn't come from the Qu'ran, where did it come from? I look forward to your response.



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