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Michigan teacher suspended for teaching class about segregation

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posted on May, 31 2014 @ 10:55 PM
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It's no wonder kids these days are oblivious to world or USA history!
Alan Barron, an 8th grade teacher in Monroe, Michigan gave a class on the history of the struggles of blacks in America and was suspended until the school decides whether he should be fired or not!
I guess our school officials are so afraid of upsetting someone by simply mentioning such things happened it's best to sweep it under the carpet and act like it never happened!
I guess if there is a black student in the class the school is afraid they may feel slightly uncomfortable for someone to even mention there was something call segregation in our country!

Adrienne Aaron, whose daughter is in Barron's class, said he simply was teaching history and that racial segregation is a subject that should be discussed with students.
"It had nothing to do with racism. History is history," Aaron told the media. "We need to educate our kids to see how far we've come in America. How is that racism?

In 50 years people won't know there were slaves or that we had a Civil War!
Well, we aren't teaching it anymore so I guess it's time to take all that 'disturbing' information out of the history books!
This country and our "leaders" are becoming a bunch of apologetic idiots! Disgusting!

www.foxnews.com...




posted on May, 31 2014 @ 10:58 PM
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a reply to: wulff

Public school is where great minds go to die. I had friends who went to public school who never learned how to research properly til college.

Why?

They teach students that the textbooks in public school are "truth" rather than teaching them they are one author's research and take on "truth".

The only option these days for a good education is home school.



posted on May, 31 2014 @ 11:06 PM
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a reply to: wulff

What about Martin Luther King? Do they choose to not teach about him? Same confrontation era.



posted on May, 31 2014 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: wulff


Teaching only the good parts of history is like rewarding your child and never punishing them if they did something wrong.

You never learn the negative aspects.

You never learn perspective.

You never learn to appreciate the good because you are never comparing it to the bad.

Welcome to modern society 101.



posted on May, 31 2014 @ 11:27 PM
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originally posted by: OrphanApology
a reply to: wulff

Public school is where great minds go to die. I had friends who went to public school who never learned how to research properly til college.

Why?

They teach students that the textbooks in public school are "truth" rather than teaching them they are one author's research and take on "truth".

The only option these days for a good education is home school.


I have had home schooled employees that couldn't do multiplication or division of simple numbers, nor addition or subtraction, they were lucky to be able to sign their names. Ask them to write an essay and you would get a blank stare and a blank sheet of paper. Students home schooled by parents that can't read past a fifth grade level are not going to succeed in the world. I am proud of the fact that I graduated from a public school, and still continue to read and do research into my fifties. Take your condescending attitude and pound sand and have a nice day. Evangelical Christians should be charged with child abuse for home schooling their children.
edit on 5/31/2014 by BubbaJoe because: I was homeschooled in typing



posted on May, 31 2014 @ 11:34 PM
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originally posted by: OrphanApology
a reply to: wulff

Public school is where great minds go to die. I had friends who went to public school who never learned how to research properly til college.

Why?

They teach students that the textbooks in public school are "truth" rather than teaching them they are one author's research and take on "truth".

The only option these days for a good education is home school.


My wife and I homeschool our son. He's 11, doing 6th grade work now, speaks 3 languages and reads at a high school level now.

I whole-heartedly agree that home-schooling is by far, the better alternative.



posted on May, 31 2014 @ 11:39 PM
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a reply to: wulff

Your title is misleading, he was suspended for showing a video of white people in blackface.



posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 12:08 AM
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a reply to: BubbaJoe

Home schooled and "no schooled" are two very separate things.

If you have employees that cannot do multiplication, division or basic reading then the more likely culprit is that they might have lied and stated they were home schooled when in actuality they were "no schooled".

Big difference.

Home schooled means you spend 6+ hours a day in self study guided by a parent. That means you are pouring through many books and reading many things. That does not mean you continually stay at a bad level of reading comprehension.

If you are truly "home schooled" it is impossible to remain ignorant and at a low level of comprehension. One cannot read book after book and remain bad at reading. That is unless they are "no schooled" and don't even have the basics down to then continue on in their journey of learning.



posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 12:11 AM
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a reply to: beezzer

Good for you!

Yes it is a great alternative to public school.

The interesting thing about home school is that it can also be a great experience for the parent too. My mother had to learn algebra again so she could teach me and my brother. She always spoke fondly of the experience because she stated that without homeschooling us she would have never revisited mathematics(she was an editor).



posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 12:26 AM
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a reply to: OrphanApology

My son gets to question convention.

He not only gets the material, but it's always a one-on-one and often leads to discussions.

He gets the full history.

Not the good parts, but the ugly side as well.

And as many here are aware, I happen to be quite opinionated at times.

My wife and I make sure that OUR opinions don't tint the truth.



posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 12:29 AM
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a reply to: wulff

I like what one of the mothers said:

""It had nothing to do with racism. History is history," Aaron told the newspaper. "We need to educate our kids to see how far we've come in America. How is that racism?"

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Wonder if this touchy-feely thing of not being able to talk about different races and history will stop once Obama leaves office
Seems like everyone walks on eggs shells ever since Obama has been in office and if something is mentioned about blacks, white people go into a panic mode

This is history people....what are we supposed to do?
Only pick out the parts that suits us? Worrying about being 'politically correct'?
What kind of message is that sending our kids?

Feels like our country is more divided now racially than before



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posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 12:50 AM
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a reply to: wulff

Wait....what?!?!?

So, we can have Black History month, that includes discussion of some of the big names of that era, that fought against segregation, but we can't teach that segregation happened????
This makes no sense at all! If it's not allowed to be discussed, then we need to demand that all affirmative action ceases, and allow lawsuits for all hurt by that sort of policy, and we need to demand a complete cessation of any mention of "insert ethnic group here" history, or whatever. If it's an excuse to grant special privileges, then it's valid material for history. If we can't teach it, then why all the hatred against whites?



posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 02:08 AM
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Those who don't learn from the mistakes of their past will be doomed to repeat them. Divide and conquer, right there.



posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 05:01 AM
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This is the homogenized history that we have been feeding kids for years. When I was a kid we weren't overtly taught about the Genocide of the Native Americans. We were taught that "Manifest Destiny" was a great American achievement, but the far reaching impacts, that are still seen to this day, were not imprinted on our young little minds. I'm not surprised that people would insist on hiding the dark secrets of our history.

Systemic, fundamental and multi-generational racial inequality is in fact a direct cause of many of our culture's problems. This truth should not be lost on anyone as it's being repackaged, rebranded and executed again today.



posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 06:14 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: OrphanApology
a reply to: wulff

Public school is where great minds go to die. I had friends who went to public school who never learned how to research properly til college.

Why?

They teach students that the textbooks in public school are "truth" rather than teaching them they are one author's research and take on "truth".

The only option these days for a good education is home school.


My wife and I homeschool our son. He's 11, doing 6th grade work now, speaks 3 languages and reads at a high school level now.

I whole-heartedly agree that home-schooling is by far, the better alternative.


I commend you and I too have home schooled cousins, as a holder of a biology degree i help with there science.

BUT

Home schooling is definitely not the be all end all or solution to both our nations education woes.

Not every parent has the intelligence or capability to home school there kids.

Case in point I know 3 different home school kids who hold zero qualifications and can not find jobs. Why? There parents were both lazy and illiterate themselves and so the kids suffered as a result.

Aslo one family decided to home school the kids but refused to spend the £200 fee to enter them into the GSCE (final high school exams every child takes in UK) privately so the kids never sat the exams and again zero qualifications.

Fact is home schooling is not appropriate for every kid.

Homeschooling has it place but its certainly not for every parent or family and a lot of kids would be better served by professionals. So there needs to be pressure to reform state schools too. But it would be great if there was also more support for homeschooling like the same free admission to state/national exams you get in state schools ect
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posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 07:07 AM
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I'm chiming in mostly because I live in Michigan, but Monroe is down river from the Big D, and anyone that has experienced Detroit proper, would be sensitive to the race issue.

Detroit was quite a place up until about the 1950s when the auto industry was peak and was employing most of the city, either directly or indirectly. Then the riots in the 60s mortally wounded Detroit and free trade outsourcing was kicking MoTown when she went down on the ground.

The Motor City is dead and they should teach the kids why it happened. They should have field trips to the ghettos around the downtown area, then show them how the casinos and other business downtown are barely keeping Detroit on life support.

Just drive around some east side neighborhoods that used to be populated by blue collar whites in the 50s, and if you don't get shot, robbed or attacked by a pit bull, you can see how segregation has worked out for the black people who moved in to the neighborhoods after the 1960s. No one is telling the poor black families to live together in ghettos that they helped to make into war zones, but it is a self imposed segregation that has the same result as if whitey put them there and forced them into a life of crime and poverty.

Show those kids the glorious results of our wise city planners and social engineers and what happens if we forget the lessons of our past. Don't let them fool you, the black people in poor neighborhoods are proud of the hood or they wouldn't rob, beat-up and chase out the white people who are foolish enough to travel through the area. They may not have much, but they live their lives just they the way they want to in their neighborhoods, that's why you find just a few east side whites that are all but black in manners and speech, they like it that way too and manage to "do as the Romans do."

Call these remarks racist as they probably are generally, but I have experienced Detroit, I know what has happened and not much of that history is taught in the Detroit area schools.



posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 07:53 AM
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a reply to: wulff

My stepdaughter had her 8th grade trip to DC this month (btw when did a tour of the White House get taken off the agenda of that trip?). When I asked her how the trip was and what she saw, she said it was fun, she saw a bunch of really cool things, and could I tell her more about some of the stuff she'd seen but not learned about yet. Naturally, I grabbed my tablet so I could secretly google the random and obscure things I was certain she was going to ask and I'd forgotten. I had no idea her questions would be:

1. Who was this Ben Franklin dude, and what did he do?
2. What was the Holocaust thing about?
3. We saw slave houses, but why were there slaves then? Does that have something to do with the Civil War?
4. We saw the memorial for Sept. 11 and the plane crash. That was really sad. (Hubby makes a comment about the WTT here). You mean other planes crashed that day, too?

I was flabbergasted that by 8th grade she still hadn't learned about Ben Franklin, the holocaust, or the Civil War. She said that all they'd learned about the Civil War was it was North and South fighting. She did know who Eli Whitney was, though.
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posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 09:20 AM
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a reply to: wulff

Segregation has always been taught in American History.

If this guy's suspended, it might be best to find out why. For all we know, he referred to the Jim Crow era as "the good ole' days, huck huck!"

Seriously, this article says next to nothing about the situation.



posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 05:07 PM
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I suspect the real reason they jumped on this guys teaching was because of where it would have lead.
He would have had to follow up with HOW they FOUGHT back against the injustice!

Cant have people realising they can FIGHT the system!!!



posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 11:01 PM
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originally posted by: acmpnsfal
a reply to: wulff

Your title is misleading, he was suspended for showing a video of white people in blackface.





Alan Barron was teaching his eighth-grade class about the history of racial segregation when he showed a video featuring blackface.

The video was historical, showing how white Americans used blackface to mockingly imitate black people as part of a broader social scheme of repression — but a school administrator sitting in on the class found it inappropriate, and Barron was suspended the next day.


The video itself is historical....what whites used to do in mockery towards others, is part of history

But get this...the teacher was 1 month from retiring, having served 36 years with the school district

So why now, after all these years, have they picked this very moment to question this teachers actions, as most teachers use their same teachings year after year
Seems odd to me....like they're trying to find an excuse for him to forfeit his retirement benefits
Just saying....

The kids and parents alike said he was favored by the students, so that sounds like a school administration's issue IMO
Hope they get this resolved soon, in favor of the teacher



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