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which events were false flags

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posted on May, 30 2014 @ 09:47 PM
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Id love to get an idea of the general sentiment around here.....which major events in recent history (recent shootings, sandy hook, benghazi, 9/11 etc.) were false flags or conspiracies?

All input is welcome, but id like to keep it to which events, not why or who or what or any bickering.

What say you ATS?




posted on May, 30 2014 @ 09:58 PM
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a reply to: captaintyinknots

911 certainly, and one you didn’t mention the Kennedy murder. And certainly some of the domestic terrorism incidents were government ops.

These spree murders, maybe some of them, but if so, not for the reason usually thought of by people on this forum, which is to bring gun control to the country.

Though, since most black ops have multiple motives behind them, maybe domestic gun control may be one of the reasons behind the spree murders but not the primary reason, imo.

The spree killings are done either for occult reasons or deeper reasons for instilling mass fear in the population.

It’s an ongoing op, so you might have legitimate loose nuts here and there but some of them are a part of the ongoing op



posted on May, 30 2014 @ 09:59 PM
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You just named my top 3 list. Add the Boston marathon.



posted on May, 30 2014 @ 10:03 PM
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a reply to: captaintyinknots

Anytime there arises a clamor in the Media: "They're killing their people, they're killing their people",

which requires that "something must be done",

which leads to a UN resolution that allows "Intervention on Humanitarian grounds",

which provides for "No fly zones and Humanitarian corridors",

which leads to bombing the s*** out of some poor country.



posted on May, 30 2014 @ 10:04 PM
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Btw, the way you can tell that something like Benghazi isn’t a black op is that the GOP is making too much noise.
When they do an op the politicians are quiet, like 911 and the JFK assassination



posted on May, 30 2014 @ 10:09 PM
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Personally, I think 9/11 most certainly wasnt what we have been told.

Beyond that, im not convinced on any of them....though im open to being swayed with some good evidence



posted on May, 30 2014 @ 10:13 PM
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I tend to believe that CT give "the govt" way too much credit when in fact, it proves itself to be inefficient and inept at most things... then again, maybe that is the joke



posted on May, 30 2014 @ 10:39 PM
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An old school one the sinking of the Lusitania.
Winston Churchill war minister at the time knew we had to get the Americans involved and so he sent the Lusitania out to sea with no escorts and the gerrys sank it thus making the Americans goto war...plus it helped when we told the Americans that The Kaiser was going to back Mexico invading the states. (which they were planning btw).
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posted on May, 31 2014 @ 12:41 AM
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9/11 and Tonkin Gulf. JFK assassination for certain and a few others that don't 'smell' right, like RFK and MLK murders, they are perhaps more in the category of 'pest control' than false-flag though.

The inept press often makes things seem much more suspicious than they perhaps should be, but... the Boston Bombing didn't look right from the start and got worse as it progressed. Tsarnaev's wife Kathleen Russell having that relationship to the Skull and Bones Society and the Russell Trust along with the CIA-connected uncle keep me from being able to swallow the 'official story' there, and its Watertown shakedown just turned my stomach. The CTers brought out some interesting tidbits about Sandy Hook that leave me dangling now even though originally accepted the news at face-value. I won't argue or lose much sleep over it though.

Hinckley having connections with the Bush clan was something I found interesting but only heard about in more recent times. Maybe he had an interest in helping get a Bush into the White House. That is an interesting hot potato for the press if they knew of his connection with the family, perhaps a reason to really lay into the whole Jodie Foster angle for a deflection. But what is the responsibility of the press in such cases, to report the unvarnished news or to smooth things over for public consumption about the power-players?

Two things for certain - not every conspiracy theory is correct, and not every 'official story' given to the public is the plain, unadulterated truth either. Uncertainty and gullibility are our choices, one is uncomfortable and the other damnable.


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posted on May, 31 2014 @ 12:53 AM
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originally posted by: captaintyinknots
Id love to get an idea of the general sentiment around here.....which major events in recent history (recent shootings, sandy hook, benghazi, 9/11 etc.) were false flags or conspiracies?

All input is welcome, but id like to keep it to which events, not why or who or what or any bickering.

What say you ATS?


Unfortunately, I find myself asking the opposite question. Which ones weren't? And again, unfortunately, even when I strip away all conspiracy theories and just look at what has been reported, I am still highly suspicious of all of it. I cannot separate fact from fiction. It's not even that I want to believe in false flags. I want to believe the people who run my country have at least some integrity. I never asked for any of this. At a certain point, I just could not stop myself from wondering what was the truth and what possible motives there may be if there are lies.

As far as I'm concerned, all of these events are suspicious because all of the people at the top are suspicious.



posted on May, 31 2014 @ 12:53 AM
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The claim that Iraq had "weapons of mass destruction" was a false flag.

It is a known fact that governments do create "false flag" plans.


Source


Operation Northwoods[edit]


Operation Northwoods memorandum (13 March 1962).[19]
The planned, but never executed, 1962 Operation Northwoods plot by the U.S. Department of Defense for a war with Cuba involved scenarios such as fabricating the hijacking or shooting down of passenger and military planes, sinking a U.S. ship in the vicinity of Cuba, burning crops, sinking a boat filled with Cuban refugees, attacks by alleged Cuban infiltrators inside the United States, and harassment of U.S. aircraft and shipping and the destruction of aerial drones by aircraft disguised as Cuban MiGs.[20] These actions would be blamed on Cuba, and would be a pretext for an invasion of Cuba and the overthrow of Fidel Castro's communist government. It was authored by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy. The surprise discovery of the documents relating to Operation Northwoods was a result of the comprehensive search for records related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy by the Assassination Records Review Board in the mid-1990s.[21] Information about Operation Northwoods was later publicized by James Bamford



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posted on May, 31 2014 @ 12:57 AM
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originally posted by: MagicWand67
The claim that Iraq had "weapons of mass destruction" was a false flag.



Tell that to the Kurds.



posted on May, 31 2014 @ 01:06 AM
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9/11 for sure unless the laws of physics were changed on that day and most likly JFK and also Princess Di but the good news is that we are not taking the news as facts these days and have started to quesion whats being said.

As far as i know I was the first to say here that Putin might be doing a deal with the USA to push up oil prices and military spending in the USA and the longer we see no red on blue action in the Ukraine like I predicted then the more likly it becomes that I was right all along so please add that to the list along with the US-Liberty bombing.



posted on May, 31 2014 @ 01:14 AM
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During the whole "Occupy" movement there were cities in which police officers dressed up like protesters and tried to incite riots and vandalism. In an attempt to discredit the actual protesters and allow police to take action against them.



posted on May, 31 2014 @ 08:41 AM
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9/11
Princess Diana
JFK/RFK/MLK
Sandy Hook

Like Bryansanders said. Which ones aren't false flags.

9/11 I think most people seem to think something went on that we'll never know the reasons for.

What about the london bombings? i've heard a few whispers but never really looked into it.



posted on May, 31 2014 @ 01:09 PM
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What timeframe? The Gleiwitz incident, the bombings done by stay behind groups in Italy in the name of the red brigades, The Mukden Incident and the Marco Polo Bridge incident, both courtesy of the Japanese empire.



posted on May, 31 2014 @ 01:26 PM
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The 7-7 London Bombings are right up there. Something just doesnt add up about Sandy Hook and the Oklahoma City Bombing is extremely suspicious. Id add those to the list.

9-11 is probably the most obvious false flag ive ever seen.



posted on May, 31 2014 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: captaintyinknots

Look up the history of the USS Liberty, McNamara and the Tonkin Gulf and the USS Maine.

Ineptness is NOT in every segment of the Fascist State. Otherwise they would not rise to power.



posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 08:43 AM
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Port Arthur Massacre, brought down tough firearm sanctions throughout Australia. Ive spoken to a gentleman there at the time, he insists there was more than one shooter. We where pretty good friends and I believe him



posted on Jun, 1 2014 @ 04:33 PM
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Id like to thank everyone who has responded. Id love to hear a few more...



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