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originally posted by: wantstoknowmore
a reply to: Swills
I live here in Seattle, and while I haven't heard/seen anything in local news about this, I can say that the looks I get from police officers are a little colder than other police people I have shared glances with in the past. I'm a white dude btw, so its not a race thing. There are however some pretty crazy people up here that these officers have to deal with, as well as meth addicts. Also there is gang activity down in South Seattle, as well as prostitute activity near Aurora. Lots of coc aine for sure in club scene which they barely touch. I don't think they care so much about that.
But yeah, there is def violent gang activity that happens in South Seattle, and I think this may be what they are referencing. Up here in North Seattle, its pretty calm, especially near Shoreline, and there is just prostitutes near Aurora. West seattle you get some stealing going on, but besides that, in my book, violence begets violence, and the key to this country is criminalizing private prisons, preventing criminal history from going on permanent background(when you do the time, erase the crime), and extend length of time jailed for convicted judgements by jury of peers. After all, how can a person with a criminal history even get a place to stay these days, or even a good job? How can they show society they have changed when a civilian background check pulls everything up, all arrest records, all judgements, everything, even if you were ruled not guilty. Seems pretty #ty to me. Of course police officers should be able to see background information, but I think privacy is essential, even for past criminals to allow them to focus on legal activities(domain of civilians) and allow police officers to enforce illegal activities with few constraints.
If you piss off a police officer, and he beats the # out of you, that is your own damn fault. Be respectful, as he is putting his ass on the line every day preventing murders and #. If Arizona and New Mexico had that mindset, there wouldn't be a "Silver or Lead" policy of cartels and police people going on. Of course, beatings because of race differences is wrong, but if you start badmouthing a police officer, you are asking for it. They no longer have patience, and they are not meant to have patience. They are meant to deal with crime when it occurs. If you get caught in the crossfire, explain cheerfully and calmly that they have got the wrong man. When they find this out, get a written letter from the officer to excuse you in that case, and so you can give to your employer if you got held up and couldn't get to work, or your landlord as to why you didn't bring them rent, and all is well. But they will only do that if you've been kind, respectful, cheerful, and following directions. Also, there won't be a next time, as if they find you again, you will again be kind, respectful ,cheerful, and following directions, and many will see that on previous record, and not bother you anymore.
In short, make a good impression on local police folk, and they won't taser you. They will merely ask you questions, which you have a right to not say anything about(where were you going? Is it ok if I exercise my right to remain silent? Yes, ok, 30 minutes later-length of time they can legally detain you without a warrant or arrest, you are free to go. case closed).
You have nothing to fear if you are completely lawful at that point in time while a cop detains you.
originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: crankyoldman
No... they don't. Perhaps a small minority have such an attitude, but police in general do not believe we are all the enemy. That is nothing more than pure and unadulterated nonsense of the highest order.
Police see the worst that humanity has to offer. Stands to reason that after enough of that any normal person would become a bit paranoid when dealing with the public. Anyone who does not recognize that and would choose to aggravate and create a confrontation is an idiot. In such cases perhaps the Darwin factor SHOULD intervene lol