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Topic started on 30-11-2004 @ 08:12 AM by 00PS
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I post the whole article here so you won't have to register at the NYtimes just to read it the link is at the bottom of the page... I was thinking
what would it mean to the world if anyone in the world could grow up thinking they could be the next leader of the USA...it opens up the NWO...Do you
think it will ever happen...a foreign born president? That would be a sad day, because the NWO would truly be in effect and America won't be
Americans anymore.
Efforts Made to OK Foreign Born Presidents
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 8:39 a.m. ET
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The nation's forefathers envisioned a president born in the good ol' U.S. of A.; a red, white and true-blue chief executive for
when the band strikes up ``Hail to the Chief.''
In 1787, they put it in writing -- Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution: ``No person except a natural born citizen ... shall be eligible to the
office of president.''
More than 200 years later, in a diverse nation with more than 33 million immigrants, the push is on to alter that venerable document and allow
naturalized U.S. citizens -- Americans like Arnold Schwarzenegger from Thal, Austria, and Jennifer Granholm from Vancouver, B.C., -- to become
president.
The number of foreign-born in the United States is increasing at a rapid pace: more than 1 million a year between 2000 and 2004, according to a recent
study. Those millions, however, aren't the ones some proponents of the constitutional change have in mind.
Foreign Born
Presidents
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reply posted on 30-11-2004 @ 08:28 AM by EastCoastKid
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Based on the insanity I have witnessed since 2000, I'd say anything's possible. Especially when you have someone like AhNuld, star-worshipped by so
many. He's probably going to do everything in his power to be the next Republican prez. As for me, I say leave the constitution as it is (in this
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reply posted on 30-11-2004 @ 08:36 AM by Jemison
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I live in California and voted for Arnold. I am pleased with what he has done and hope that he will continue as Governer. However, as much as I like
Arnold and think he is a benefit to the state of California, I would NOT support anything that would help him become eligible to run for President. I
believe we should keep things as they are and allow only U.S. born citizens to become President.
Jemison
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reply posted on 30-11-2004 @ 08:59 AM by Corinthas
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Getting ready for Arnie as prez?
Wait a moment all Americans are immigrants, the natives were almost all killed.
Never realized you had native presidents.. oh you didn't surprise, surprise what with the tolerant and inclusive attitudes overthere!
So all this "i am a American born American" stuff is just to conviniently forget you don't belong there.. but nevermind... i am all for a non
American being eligable for office.. we might finally see a non WASP president (i doubt it though).
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reply posted on 30-11-2004 @ 09:01 AM by Corinthas
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Originally posted by Jemison
I live in California and voted for Arnold.
So you're a buddy of Ken Lays too?
Never realized the @%^$% had so many friends.
Come on Arnie is there to make sure California doesn't ask for all its money back from Enron.
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reply posted on 30-11-2004 @ 09:13 AM by elaine
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Originally posted by Corinthas
Getting ready for Arnie as prez?
Wait a moment all Americans are immigrants, the natives were almost all killed.
Well I am a quarter native American and I say there should'nt be any "foreign born" presidents elected. We don't even have a U.S. born woman or
minority president yet. But there might be the possibility of a foreign born leader? That's so unfair.
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reply posted on 30-11-2004 @ 09:54 AM by infinite
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What about the theory Alex Jones said that Bush we connected to the British royal family bloodline? i know he says alot of things,
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reply posted on 30-11-2004 @ 12:22 PM by Amethyst
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I'm against such an amendment. I have Native American ancestors too.
We should have really tight immigration laws and do what we can to keep illegals out. We should not have a foreign-born President. We need to keep
our sovereignty. In fact, we should pull out of the UN and get out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Take care of our own first!
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 01:52 AM by Don Armageddon
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I am an American citizen, and have been all my life. I love my country, but I have had (what I consider to be the priviledge) of having been born and
raised outside of the U.S. I believe that an outsider's perspective is what this country needs, and I am offended that someone like me, no matter how
patriotic, can never have the opportunity to lead. I understand the concern that people may have with this policy, but, again, we're all immigrants
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 01:59 AM by Grommer
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About the Alex Jones stuff: he's got this new site up .. www.arnoldexposed.com...
I havnt looked through it much, but from what I've seen it has some interesting articles.
I dont think the Constitution needs to be ammended at all; there's plenty of good candidates that were born here, we dont need to go around changing
it. I dont care what anyone says, a dual citizen only has loyalty to their native country.
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 02:04 AM by SkipShipman
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Originally posted by elaine
Originally posted by Corinthas
Getting ready for Arnie as prez?
Wait a moment all Americans are immigrants, the natives were almost all killed.
Well I am a quarter native American and I say there should'nt be any "foreign born" presidents elected. We don't even have a U.S. born woman or
minority president yet. But there might be the possibility of a foreign born leader? That's so unfair.
I triple the motion, as having American Native ancestry. It may not be very much, however I have awakened to it recently and studied more in this
heritage. I think that "the great white father," if you will, should some day be a Native American before anyone from overseas.
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 02:39 AM by ShadowXIX
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I have always like Arnold even back in his Mr. Olympia body building days. I also think he is doing a good job as Governor of California. He has a
approval rating most politician can only dream of. But I would be against Arnold being allowed to run for President.
If we want a weight lifter turned movie star turned Governor we always have US born Jesse Ventura he was even in Predator too. Plus he was a navy
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 02:50 AM by Corinthas
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All this rhetoric is good fine, but come on the only non-wasp president was white anglo saxon and catholic and look what they did to him!
I don't think i wll live to see anything other than wasp presidents in America, i don't even think i'll live to see a woman get the job.
So much for the inclusive and tolerant society you made yourselves over there.. 
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 03:24 AM by HALLOWEEN78
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What are you talking about? Not going to live to see a woman in the White House? There will defenintly be a woman in the White House. And I predict it
will be the next election. Either Hillary Clinton or Condilisa(hope I spelled that right) Rice. (Please do not comment on the who's in that
statement. Jesus, I don't wanna start another god forsaken political debate   )
As for the topic on hand, I am also against such an amendment. I think Amethyst said it best in one of the above posts:
"We should have really tight immigration laws and do what we can to keep illegals out. We should not have a foreign-born President. We need to keep
our sovereignty. In fact, we should pull out of the UN and get out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Take care of our own first!"
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 03:56 AM by stalkingwolf
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I am not in favor of changing the constitution. I am surely not in favor of arnie
as president. i am watching closely how he is dealing with Native American
issues in the granola state. IMO i would not want him in a position where he
could screw it up in the whole country.
here is a thought to ponder, a one on one political debate with lets say arnie,
jean- claude, or pierce and some one from cajun country, i mean way back in the
bayou.
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 09:56 AM by Bondi
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Bush and the English Royals interesting idea.
There is however a website in the process of proving the genealogy of the all powerful members of the worlds governments. And they display a list of
Bush's cousins, the current realtion count is: -
Governors - 41
Senators - 16
Representatives - 57
Other Politicians - 2
Businessmen& Bankers - 4
Heads of non-U.S. governments - 2
Royalty - 1
TOTAL - 12
www.blue-blood.co.uk
I think that's it. If it doesn't work let me know and I'll go through my history files.
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 12:09 PM by infinite
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Originally posted by Bondi
Bush and the English Royals interesting idea.
There is however a website in the process of proving the genealogy of the all powerful members of the worlds governments. And they display a list of
Bush's cousins, the current realtion count is: -
Governors - 41
Senators - 16
Representatives - 57
Other Politicians - 2
Businessmen& Bankers - 4
Heads of non-U.S. governments - 2
Royalty - 1
TOTAL - 12
www.blue-blood.co.uk
I think that's it. If it doesn't work let me know and I'll go through my history files.
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Hmm, thats really interesting
Need to check into it abit more.
But getting back to arnie....i can see the rules being changed for him.
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 12:28 PM by Kramthenothing
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I am very against this I don't think arnie our any other person born elsewhere should even be considered to lead us
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 02:12 PM by ShadowXIX
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Originally posted by stalkingwolf
i am watching closely how he is dealing with Native American
issues in the granola state.
Yeah he didnt take any of the money the Indian Casinos offered him for his election, and he wants the Casinos to pay taxes. Man what was the guy
thinking
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reply posted on 5-12-2004 @ 07:31 PM by newkids123
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Funny how this country was stolen from the natives, yet we are just making a new law for a leader that is born outside of the states.
Did the Native Americans have the chance to make such bill? Or they just got shot over a chicken or duck while their homeland got taken away from
invaders.
It's Ironic that how things has been happening, happened in the past. Yet we are finding new ways to make it new to us.
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