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lol that is classic. i was trying to keep it simple for you.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: deadeyedick
The flesh says yes the spirit says no
Oh goodness. Would you elaborate on that? This could be interesting ....
You are entitled to your civil rights, so long as they don't have an impact on the government. If the government wants oil, screw your civil rights, they don't care about them. If you dislike how your government is mistreating citizens, screw your civil rights, they don't care about them.
Civil rights include the ensuring of peoples' physical and mental integrity, life and safety; protection from discrimination on grounds such as race, gender, national origin, colour, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion, or disability; and individual rights such as privacy, the freedoms of thought and conscience, speech and expression, religion, the press, assembly and movement.
This hardly exists as well. Depending on where you live, you don't get natural justice (procedural fairness).
Political rights include natural justice (procedural fairness) in law, such as the rights of the accused, including the right to a fair trial; due process; the right to seek redress or a legal remedy; and rights of participation in civil society and politics such as freedom of association, the right to assemble, the right to petition, the right of self-defense, and the right to vote.
originally posted by: kkrattiger
Your "murderer rapist traitor" clause makes no logical sense, unless you are actually saying what it sounds like you said: that murders rapist traitors and the like do not deserve the right to a fair trial, representation, to question their accusers, etc.
Do you actually mean they do not deserve rights?
That someone like Snowden, whom is called a traitor by some, deserves no rights?
or How Bout the man in New York who was recently released from jail having served over 20 years for murder it was found he did not commit? Does your post imply that this man deserves to have his rights back?
a reply to: thesaneone