originally posted by: undo
a reply to: HarbingerOfShadows
i'm addressing the subject of the op, which is that atheists and people of faith, stop arguing with each other. my premise is, books written about
the subject, which are then discussed in public venues such as ats, are part of what fuels the arguing, and it does so because people have their own
views about the data.
I am not aware if you know this about how many things work today...and how they have been cataloged or identified to those trained in it.
Many issues today in a social structure have been deliberately groomed by someone to play against each other.
Racism is one such fingerprint or created structure. Atheism verses Christianity ..is another. Mostly they go against Christianity.
The idea that they stop arguing against each other is interesting since someone is so obviously playing each against the other.
In operation..this is a Hegelian dialectic...Thesis, anti thesis...synthesis. Another word for it is managed conflict.
The new political pattern in the last 50/60 years is managed conflict. If necessary ..use politics, media and other methods to create conflict, create
bad guys and then manage it to a preconceived conclusion.
One of the popular tools used to control these positoins is one of "Cognative Dissonance."
You can see this taking place today in particular in the made to order cottage industry of "Racism."
Many of the ' ism" type conflicts man made and controlled today are using this dialectic and cognative dissonance to squelch any dissent...questioning
In this manner many of these man made "isms" ... default through unchallanged or unquestioned.
They are made and managed to this very end. It is a show.
The problem is most do not realize it is a show....managed today by social engineers financed by certain government peoples.
It is designed and managed to promote conflict.
If you look carefully ..you can see the hand of government in this ..particularly in the last 10 years.
They are not even hiding their anti Christian position.
But you must be trained to spot it...It is not a training one will ever get in public schools financed by government.
With this as a baseline starting point ..I will now take the conversation in a slightly different direction...
Science as a baseline for the new anti Christian religion of the world...the new paradigm.
Science has been here for awhile now...but what is not taught by atheists who try to use Science to validate their beliefs is the history of
men...using and misusing science to promote the glory of men.
The problem I have with science as a social paradigm for a new man made man managed anti god religion is that the Anti god nations.....Russia and
China have used Science to their benefit while killing off millions of their own people. Yet not a peep out of our scientists here or in other western
nations while this was going on. They are scientists...they cannot possibly be so ignorant about this going on in the world...nor can our own
goverenment be so ignorant that they did not know it was going on...for they too use and misuse science to keep and maintain their power and power
This kind of thing...killing off and slaughtering ones own people is called. Democide
Once you understand that the Communists under Russia and even in China killed off milliions of their own people ...in the last 100 years...this puts a
very different onus on science as the baseline template for justifying anti god positions.
But this is not a template which will ever be taught in public schools. Our young people are never to know that this happened..it is simply seldom if
ever covered for our young people to know.
I am not against science..per se. For science has made our lives less labor intensive and more comfortable. I just think it is a poor substitute for
religion. And the history shows just that. Science is not even good validation once one knows the history of such governments. For the Communists were
and still are great believers in science.
For all that matter ..so too are the Muslims.
Just some additioinal thoughts on the managed conflict going on here and amongst other peoples.
What I find very sad..Undo..is that even so few ministers teach this line of thought among their flocks. It ought not to so be.
Hope this sheds some insight into the nature of the conflict.
Remember this pattern..of which I speak concernign science and the anti god side of science. Particularly in the inner circle..and among political
And remember this pattern also when certain of the anti god people try to use science to validate their positions. Science will go where is the money
and like politics...will sell their souls to get it ...and better yet..like politics...sell someone else's soul...using and misusing confusion along
the way. And for lucre.
Not all scientists are unbelevers..I live right next to the NASA Langley Research Center here in Hampton , Virginia ...lots of active and retired
Science types in this area. And many of them are Believers. And many are not anti God. But the inner circle...and in politics..this is a very
different cut of cloth today.
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edit on 5-6-2014 by orangetom1999 because: (no reason given)