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Film Critic Blames California Shooting On White Male Hollywood (and Seth Rogen)

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posted on May, 27 2014 @ 03:28 PM

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: FlyersFan

Simple solution.

Ban Hollywood.

Sounds legit...

posted on May, 27 2014 @ 03:35 PM

originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe

The alpha male syndrome has existed since caveman days. It would exist without tv, ads, etc. I think most every man is born with a natural urge to compete and one up each other. I don't think it's realistic to expect it to stop any time soon.

I can't fully agree with that. It's very noticeable that within certain groups of men there is permanent competition. It's also very noticeable that within other groups of men there is no competition and much greater group achievement. Specific individuals I'm thinking of who show no signs of competition include a millionaire, martial arts teachers, a reformed armed criminal etc. People who would have every right to claim alpha status yet behave as men, not as dogs or wolves.

posted on May, 27 2014 @ 03:47 PM
Liberal blogs like dailykos are blaming the MRA. At first I thought it was a typo of NRA. But no, these loonies are actually blaming this mass stabbing on some little known men's rights association.

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posted on May, 27 2014 @ 04:05 PM
Even the mainstream media like the Washington post is getting into the loonie blame game.

In covering Elliot Rodger, writers aren’t shy about blaming misogyny and the groups that perpetuate it oups-who-perpetuate-it/?tid=hp_mm

Since half of the victims were stabbed, they realize they could not blame the NRA so now they are scrambling to create new bogeymen to blame it on men in general.
edit on 27-5-2014 by Deny Arrogance because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 27 2014 @ 04:07 PM
I don’t know…it seems angry white males are doing a lot of killing these days.

They don’t do it like the brothers in the hood. They go to the suburban malls, midnight matinees, military basis, and religious places…nice joints. Places that have a successful aura to it.

And they don’t kill out of revenge, drug deals, gang banging, they kill for reasons of what would appear to be INSANITY of some form.
Whatever the case, something is wrong with our civilization when these spree killings are done now almost everyday

Guns, psychotropic drugs, too much violence in the media, misogyny, white male privilege, black male entitlement, too many guns, bad parenting, NWO black plots, and other unknown reasons…

Whatever? Bottom line we have to diagnose something and fix it or we may be in a world of trouble, if we aren’t already there!


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posted on May, 27 2014 @ 04:10 PM
a reply to: Willtell

Sorry to ruin your racist stereotypes but recent military base shooters were black and Arabic. The kc highway mass shooter a few weeks ago was black...

There were mass shootings this past week during black bike week at myrtle beach that resulted in more victims than the CA shooting but this practically ignored by the media.

The number of gun shootings by young black males dwarfs any other demographic.
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posted on May, 27 2014 @ 04:41 PM
a reply to: NthOther
Good point. Liberals blame american drug buyers for the Mexican cartel violence so now they should blame women ticket buyers for supporting the Hollywood film industry, to be consistent with their logic.

posted on May, 27 2014 @ 04:52 PM

originally posted by: aboutface
Who is to say what influence popular culture had on him?

The blame is with the shooter. We can blame him as an evil person ... or we can blame his mental illness (assuming he has mental illness). But we can't blame white men in hollywood making stoner movies. There is nothing in those movies that could push a mentally stable person to become unstable.

Now if you want to talk about porn contributing to violence against women, you'd have a case. But 'Neighbors'??? Nope. It's not there, IMHO.

posted on May, 27 2014 @ 04:57 PM

originally posted by: Willtell
I don’t know…it seems angry white males are doing a lot of killing these days.

I don't know ... it seems that the percentage of black males committing murder is a lot higher then the black population percentage.

Race and Crime in USA

According to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and Native Americans and Asians 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most murders were intraracial, with 84% of white homicide victims murdered by whites, and 93% of black victims murdered by blacks.

Seriously .. it's not a 'white anger' thing. It's just a mental health thing.

posted on May, 27 2014 @ 05:48 PM
Yes, there's an argument to be made in that general line.

Yes, there is some validity to pointing out how other factors other than mental illness led to this, but those factors that this woman is referring to have little to do with what actually happened.

This kid didn't go on a rampage because of "objectification of women", he didn't go on a rampage because of "toxic masculinity", he went on a rampage because he was a spoiled little rich kid that was never taught empathy, how to take "no" graciously, and how to advocate for himself.

He went on a rampage because he was a narcissistic psychopath that was given a pass even though his own parents informed authorities that he was dangerous and those same authorities saw with their own eyes his rantings, ravings, and threats. He was very clearly a danger to himself and others if you take five minutes to watch and read his words, but the authorities did absolutely nothing about this.

If we're being honest, "affluenza" had more to do with this and comes in at a distant second to simple, plain severe mental illness with giant red flags that simply slipped through the cracks.

posted on May, 27 2014 @ 05:56 PM
a reply to: Deny Arrogance
Study Shows White Men Are More Likely To Commit Mass Murders

You’re the one bent out of shape merely because I point out that the vast majority of the spree killings have been WHITE MEN!

We discuss on this from numerous times the black crime epidemic and no one cries about stereotyping as long as we try to put they facts in context and don’t blame the whole race, as I didn’t do.

Its fact typing.

Of course they aren’t ALL the spree killers

Don’t worry other races will catch up

While the majority of all violent crimes are perpetuated by men, American mass murders in particular seem to be the territory of white men. The Encyclopedia of Murder and Violent Crime writes that, “Compared with assailants who kill but one victim, mass murderers are overwhelmingly likely to be male, [and] are far more likely to be white,” and the numbers prove it. According to Wikipedia, 75% of the rampage killings on US record were perpetrated by white males, as were 71% of massacres in schools, and 60% of workplace rampages – a seriously disproportionate number for the number of white males that make up the general population. Clearly, there is more at play here than the advantage of opportunity. Historically, the focus on serial killers and mass murderers has been on the individual motives for the crimes, and little on the overarching trend. It’s plausible that the elevated social status of white males combined with isolation, desperation, opportunity, and mental illness has led the white men who have gone on rampages to make their pain felt by those around them in a very violent way. Of course, it isn’t just male privilege that makes men more prone to violent crime than their female counterparts. From the time they are toddlers, men are socialized to express their emotions through violence. Western culture – and especially American culture – teaches boys that emotional intelligence and expression is worthless and effeminate, and that the acceptable masculine response to anger, sadness, and/or frustration is to act out physically. If this mentality is particularly deeply rooted in an individual man, he may find it incredibly difficult to form an emotional support system, leading to more self-inflicted and outwardly motivated violence among men. - See more at: 8NOi.dpuf

Just the facts mam!

posted on May, 27 2014 @ 07:36 PM

originally posted by: aboutface
The shooter had mental health issues. When someone feels /or really is rejected, they may find escape into fantasies in which he is in control. That may take the form of violence or sexual fantasies. From there it may grow until the opportunity comes for him to act it out.

Who is to say what influence popular culture had on him? What set it off, and what opportunities could there have been to offset his growing determination to stop his inner pain? If the culture of one-upmanship or male entitlement is a contributing factor, it should be examined. At least the piece has initiated discussion and debate, and that should not be seen as a bad thing, imo.

He had issues and was receiving treatment, of which we know zilch or even if it would have mattered in the long run.
Thing is all media projects some Faux images, from the news to the movies, to the page three, to the ads and science.
There are no easy answers. The whole thing is a tragedy for everyone.

posted on May, 27 2014 @ 08:38 PM
a reply to: Willtell
Thanks for the link. Your source cited Wikipedia and I just checked for myself.

There is around one black rampage killer for every five white ones.

There is around one black person for every five white people in the US. European American 72.4, African American 12.6.

Seems pretty proportional to me.
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posted on May, 27 2014 @ 09:22 PM
Ahrrr...what happened to the good old Days, when a man could rape and pillage all in the name of conquest and war. Arr.

Thems were real men, they was. Oooh theres a new village of nubile teens, lets rape and pillage, and take a few along with us, Arrr, Uggg.

Happened all thru the ages....until now (unless you're a soldier).

Now, if only modern women were like Homosexual men.......Lets go to the local "Beat", the public toilets or scout hall at night (or day).....nubile women all waiting for a man to show a good time, for free of course....
Or go to the local club...and have a special room you go into and have your way with as many women as you can....

Ah yes.....those Homosexual guys have got it worked out..
. (only what Ive read and seen on TV and movies of course..and Hollywood is full of 'em)

posted on May, 27 2014 @ 11:43 PM
Yes, Seth Rogen, blame him.
I think movies should be realistic.
There should be a special Movie Reality Board that oversees scrips and production of movies so that young, impressionable minds do not get deluded as to what life is all about.
They should be like Leave it to Beaver and Father Knows Best, that teach proper morality.
The exception would be shows like Game of Thrones because it is clearly an alternative universe (though it does have a sort of morality to it, too, that older people can get).
edit on 27-5-2014 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 28 2014 @ 12:20 AM
Anyone else notice the irony that her last name is almost the same as the ammunition manufacturer?


posted on May, 28 2014 @ 05:37 PM
a reply to: theantediluvian

I think those fedora wearing MRA twerps coud learn a lot from that movie

As a transmale, I avoid such polarization groups and just go my own way depending on my tastes. I also had the chance of dating some of these so called gentlemen dudebros when still a woman and the only experience I got was trying to pry them off as they are too clingy and don't get the hint that they should find someone else

But yes antidiluvian, I think we should have a program where lessons are takenfrom the movie

posted on May, 28 2014 @ 05:45 PM
a reply to: Deny Arrogance

You’ll never hear me espousing any racism one way or the other. But we have to look at it.

Why more white men SO FAR do more spree crimes?... then it’s not because of their race per se but its because of some form of socialization of the concept of “ white” and “ black” that to me are socialized political terms not any thing based on reality.

The interesting thing though beyond race is the gender issue. Many are starting to see the problem being a male thing. Of course there are female killers but very few.

posted on May, 28 2014 @ 06:20 PM
Well since actors and movies have no bearing what so ever on peoples actions, I guess those teens who mimicked the stars of Jackass had no influence from TV what so ever none or the children who got lost in the sewers looking for the ninja turtles or the child who killed his sister because he was a power ranger and she was the evil witch or a boy 5 who dies mimicking spider man.......etc....etc.....etc. Please ignore the facts. I use to want to fight after watching Rambo, Commando, Rocky, Bloodsport, Karate Kid, etc....etc....etc......and I did get in trouble, didn't kill anyone but made some damage.

Imitates Dexter

Here is a list of movies or shows and how some made them a reality.

I know that almost all of us can evaluate what is right and wrong. But, what comes first the chicken of the egg? Do children know how to act like they do before they see it on TV? NO. Money see money do.

So if this is all bullsh!t then why so many examples of this happening? I mean they can't all be coincidences. TV influences your mood, your character, it shapes what you know and what possibilities are available even the bad ones.

I don't endorse what she says 100%, but to shut it down 100% is just as ignorant. TV does play a HUGE role in how people behave, some more than others. Please, you can't just disregard what she is saying 100% it holds some truth.
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posted on May, 28 2014 @ 07:01 PM
Her logic makes total sense.
By following her logic blood loss is caused by vampire movies.
Skin eating disease, Necrotizing fasciitis, is caused by Zombie movies.
And TV in general just makes people stupid.

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