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What is or isn't Politically Correct Science?

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posted on May, 26 2014 @ 01:08 PM
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Picked up this term from a very gentlemanly Russian scientist Evgeny Podkletnov, who according to some sources had published a paper on gravity modification thru rotating superconducting composite ceramic disc. What eventually became of him or his research is unknown. Though in one of his interviews I think of 2002 he uses this term and says he is afraid to work with science, that is not politically correct. I would imagine that his first language is not English, so he might be meaning forbidden science. So even cold fusion should fall in this category.
What are your views on this subject and why do these scientists go missing or out of circulation?




posted on May, 26 2014 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: Nochzwei


Dont think he disappeared or is out of circulation,
Here is an interview done by him from 2013

Interview

Also here is a thread from April 2014 here on ATS discussing his recent endeavors:

ATS thread
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posted on May, 26 2014 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: Nochzwei

It happens. The USSR almost banned quantum mechanics, until their nuclear scientists covinced them not to. Also they banned talk of genetics, which hurt their algricultural programs. Real science puts you inline with reality. However some 'oppressed' science just isnt real. Im skeptical of free energy because energy is money. If it were doable, I suspect it would be all over the black market. But we dont really see energy black markets.



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: tridentblue

How do you expect to see an energy black market when all the people who come up with this stuff either have their patents stolen, have their work destroyed, or go missing. The fact is, there have been a few people claiming to have a free energy or over unity device that just simply go missing.

My guess that by politically correct, he meant that the greedy politicians wouldn't be supportive... probably quite the opposite.



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: Nochzwei

There is no correct science, whether politically or non-politically as both are doomed to disappear when humanity does. Why must one insist on perverting their mind with mental garbage that shall inevitably perish a long with everything else in this non-eternal existence?

My advice is to spend your mental energy on discovering the eternal within you.

Kind regards,

Eric



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: Nochzwei

He's not "missing". No one's ever been able to reproduce his results, that's pretty much a dead end in science. That's why he's "out of circulation".
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posted on May, 26 2014 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: Nochzwei

He's not "missing". No one's ever been able to reproduce his results, that's pretty much a dead end in science. That's why he's "out of circulation".

Maybe so. Browsing about on the net, found another controversial video on time and gravity
www.youtube.com... . So this should most certainly be politically incorrect or forbidden science



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: Nochzwei

Or rather, when scientists cannot reproduce the results they stop being interested. It's not really "forbidden" if we're having a public conversation about it.

Edit:

His initial study has 117 citations according to Google Scholar so it's not like his work was ignored or hidden.
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posted on May, 26 2014 @ 04:22 PM
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The bottom line is THER IS anti gravity technology fully developed and deployed on this planet. The US probably has it, the Russians too and maybe a breakaway group as well. Going back to the 40's and 50's, literally thousands and thousands of military reports from all over the world of gravity defying craft in the skies. It must be seen as a national security issue which, not doubt, has some kind of secret order and court that literally obliterates any "public" progress on anti gravity tech. It will come out when they figure a way to throttle is so some giant corporation can make money on it for decades to come.



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 04:35 PM
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Going back to the 40's and 50's, literally thousands and thousands of military reports from all over the world of gravity defying craft in the skies.


Like, airplanes?
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posted on May, 26 2014 @ 04:42 PM
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Looks like you are expecting The Rapture sometime soon
a reply to: EviLCHiMP



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 04:46 PM
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You have brought up some points, which are hard to ignore. So the govts are privvy to this and the rest are as if they don't exist
a reply to: PresenceUnknown



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: Nochzwei

I don't see how you could possibly have ascertained that from my response. Are you attempting to imply something or do you have some constructive criticism to add to this?



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 05:00 PM
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This anti-gravity was tested in many places, and to within the sensitivity of the measuring devices, no convincing antigravity effect was observed. One of the most well documented was the invitational lecture to the University of Sheffield in the UK. He also worked with researches at Sheffield to recreate his experiments.

It didn't reproduce the effect and much like most of this stuff, he blamed the researchers at sheffield and the setup not being quite right.

Deal is, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. All the papers I have ever seen on the subject show something around a 10^-6 ish effect, or say for example, which when you take general vibration and generally anything into account, measuring a 10^-6 effect is extremely hard, and any positive results claimed sound more like the experimental setup being not understood.



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 05:01 PM
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originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: Nochzwei

Or rather, when scientists cannot reproduce the results they stop being interested. It's not really "forbidden" if we're having a public conversation about it.

Edit:

His initial study has 117 citations according to Google Scholar so it's not like his work was ignored or hidden.
I'm trying to find a video of his work and there are none, its only his say so about his research



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: Nochzwei

No videos doesn't mean anything. You know, try and find a video made by the people who solved the solar neutrino problem... there are not THAT many, and people are even less likely to know their names



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 05:28 PM
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If it is leading to a discovery that threatens the profit margins of the ruling corporations, it will be defunded or bought out. How much money would be lost if they released an inexpensive cure for cancer, or a vehicle that ran on seawater?



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: GetHyped

Going back to the 40's and 50's, literally thousands and thousands of military reports from all over the world of gravity defying craft in the skies.


Like, airplanes?


Certainly some of the reports were airplanes, but what I"m talking about are reports from militaries all around the world from the late 40's -60's of wingless craft, flying at over 1,000mph, doing manuevers that would require a radically different propulsion system and/or anti gravity ... chasing these craft, jets being scrambled constantly. Truman getting UFO updates on a monthly basis and talking about it on camera. Astronauts, pilots on the record. Consistent radar sightings and tracking of craft traveling in excess of 2,500mph. De classified military documents from countries all over the world about pilots chasing these saucer like craft. We're talking about hundreds, if not thousands of these military encounters/chases. They clearly were not airplanes.
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posted on May, 26 2014 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: Nochzwei
You have brought up some points, which are hard to ignore. So the govts are privvy to this and the rest are as if they don't exist
a reply to: PresenceUnknown



I doubt the visible governments we, the public, interface and interact with has much more information on it than the general public. After several botched attempts (Roswell, etc.) to cover up, Truman began the process of privatizing the entire UFO issue to a highly compartmentalized cluster of military contracting privately owned corporations, probably NOT publicly traded. Over time, the government simply lost it's knowledge base on it and these privately owned corporations now pretty much "own" the issue and the technology.



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 09:49 PM
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a reply to: Nochzwei

Science requires reproducible results. If you can't reproduce the results, it's not science. That doesn't mean it is or isn't politically correct. It just means it's not science.




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