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originally posted by: voyger2
a reply to: thesaneone
I'm not doing anything to your rights:
UMass-Lowell survey shows most Americans support increased gun restrictions
«“The most striking finding in this survey is that the public appears to be far more supportive of reforming our gun laws than Congress appears willing or able to respond,” Dyck said.
“The policy window on reforming gun laws may have closed in the wake of a series of gun-violence tragedies in the last few years, but the support for change still strongly exists among the public,” he said.»
I don't like how some americans seem to only have courage when they are packing.
One in four people with mental illness experiences violence of some type in a given year, a much higher rate than the rest of the population, according to a new analysis of research on the subject. The "meta-analysis" of 21 studies between 1990 and 2010 found the odds of physical, sexual or partner violence for people with a mental illness to be almost four times higher than for adults without any disability – and far higher than for individuals with other disabilities (“Mentally ill often targets of violence,” MedPage Today, Feb. 27).
THURSDAY, Feb. 27, 2014 (HealthDay News) -- People with mental illness are much more likely to be the victims of violence than the perpetrators of violent acts, a new study shows. Within a six-month period of time, nearly one-third of adults with a mental health disorder are victimized, the study revealed.
think this plays into the topic at hand quite well as the media tends to go on 24-72 hour bombardment of these shooting stories in turn giving the deranged individuals the attention in death they could never achieve in life link has links to all sources sited in the article
Fact 4: The link between mental illness and violence is promoted by the entertainment and news media. "Characters in prime time television portrayed as having a mental illness are depicted as the most dangerous of all demographic groups: 60 percent were shown to be involved in crime or violence" (Mental Health American, 1999). "Most news accounts portray people with mental illness as dangerous" (Wahl, 1995). "The vast majority of news stories on mental illness either focus on other negative characteristics related to people with the disorder (e.g., unpredictability and unsociability) or on medical treatments. Notably absent are positive stories that highlight recovery of many persons with even the most serious of mental illnesses" (Wahl, et al., 2002).
originally posted by: James1982
originally posted by: voyger2
a reply to: DeadSeraph
You should ask yourself, why do I even need to use a gun?
People leave in fear and because of that more fear they create around them.
Pause again please...
Listen to this fathers voice. Really listen to him. Do you believe in him? ... Do you recognize the truth on his voice?
I'm a little guy from a little country, that doesn't understand how can people live safely, when everyone on the street can have gun and start shooting, just because...
You should ask again, why do you even need a gun?
Maybe you have the luxury of living where there are no threats to your life, I do not, millions upon millions of Americans do not.
You talk about this father loosing his son, you fake concern and play on emotions, what about the life of my family, my children if their lives are threatened? You just don't care about them? As someone who had a potentially dangerous situation quashed due to a friend's concealed carry, as well as due to having a family member who defended their home from intruders with a old ruger 10/22, I'm going to keep my guns thank you, and defend anyone else who makes that choice and behaves responsibly with them.
Accidents happen. Nothing is ever going to stop that, ever. There are bad people, they will always be there, always. What you propose does nothing other than remove the ability of the common person to defend themselves when their life is on the line.
Me keeping guns in my home is NOT the cause of this man's loss. You falsely paint the picture as if it were so. It isn't. You are being dishonest, and in your dishonesty you attack good people who simply want to live their lives, be left alone, and defend themselves from the threats of life with everything they have.
You say you aren't from America, then why would you think you'd have any idea about the true nature of guns in America? Many Americans who live under these laws are fooled by media spin, you think it's better because you are overseas? Your governments and media spin the stories just the same, about crazy violent Americans and their guns. It's simply a lie you bought into.
I've never talked to a single person like you yet who is actually educated about guns in America. You go on so loudly proclaiming all these facts about guns in America, well it's time to put up or shut up. What do you know?
Do you know that fully-automatic weapons are NOT common by ANY means in America. There are very very few around, and that number will never go up, only down, as the current stock of full-auto guns is left over from being grandfathered in. Starting price for your bottom of the barrel full autos is near 10 grand. Few people can afford that. To purchase a fully automatic weapon to need to go through extensive background checks, applications, licensing, etc.
Do you know that up until relatively recently all manner of guns could be purchased through mail order catalogs? You could have actual off-the-battlefield guns, not just small arms either.
Do you know up until recently kids would bring their rifles to school WAY more than now. But instead of shooting up the place, they were meeting for their gun club? High school parking lots with cars displaying shotguns and rifles. No mass shootings. Responsible use.
Do you know that the laws that control guns are largely based on how they LOOK, not how they actually function or what they are actually capable of? Did you know there are strict regulations on barrel lengths, types of grips, etc?
Did you know that the Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) which went into effect under clinton banned guns that basically looked scary. The stuff now being called assault weapons. Did you know that under Bush this ban was allowed to expire?
Did you know that anti-gun zealots were crying about how the streets would run red with blood? About how America was going to come crashing down because the ban expired. Did you know after it expired, which allowed Americans to own MORE types and variety of guns, gun violence continued to FALL.
Did you know a "gunshow loophole" is a totally fake, nonexistent thing where anti-gun zealots claim felons can buy guns without any checks because it's a gun show. It's lies and tricks. Did you know every legal vendor at a gun show needs to do every check that any store would do, which means a background check, which can cause a denial for stuff as trivial as open victimless misdemeanors, causing you to wait a few weeks until the detailed check clears?
A normal person can sell a gun to another normal person in this country without having to do a background check. It doesn't matter if we are in a home, standing on the street, or in a gun show, private sales don't need background checks, but that has nothing to do with a gun show.
Did you know gun owners and proponents have been begging to access to this background check database for private sales, but the government doesn't allow it? That means private gun owners and sellers are trying to be responsible when selling firearms but the government won't allow it.
Did you know in America the cities with the strictest gun laws are also the worst cities for violence and gun crime? Did you know this is because unarmed civilians are much easier to beat, rape, and kill than armed ones, and the criminals know that. Do you?
What do you know if you are in your home with wife and child, the door comes crashing in, home invasion is now in your vocabulary. What do you do? Do you think real life is like the movies and you'll do some crazy chuck norris action moves and defend yourself? Do you think these criminals have any sort of honor about abusing women? You can talk about learning martial arts, or being in shape, these do not matter when it's you against three knife/pipe/bat/gun wielding dudes. To defend yourself against that you would need to dedicate your life to fighting, something completely and totally unreasonable and mostly impossible for people. You want everyone to be an MMA fighter? What about old people? Those in bad health? Small people and women?
Do you know that usually cops clean up the mess, not stop it from happening?
Did you know any of these things? What else do you know about guns in America? Please, please educate and tell us all the way things are!