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Iran’s Supreme Leader: Jihad Will Continue Until America is No More

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posted on May, 28 2014 @ 06:14 AM
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a reply to: Gianfar

You have also made some great points pal, thanks!!!

Yes Islam is very vocal that Allah is the only one who should judge...
That is the whole premise of Judgement Day...
The Hadith are almost polar opposite to what Prophet Muhammad was talking about...

Peace Gian!!!




posted on May, 28 2014 @ 07:35 AM
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Why do religious leaders think they are something special? Religion formed and headed by men is a failed institution. Too bad I am too old to see all religions die off like the dinosaurs.



posted on May, 28 2014 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: stelth2
They are bullies and the best way to stop bullies from turning on you is to bloody them first.
I know that we have our own problems in the US, but it’s still the best Country in the world.


Thats a bit ironic, calling another nation bullies.

As for best country in the world, how many other countries have you visited?
And the way things have been going for the last 30 years, I doubt it is the best country in the world anymore.

Its called the American Dream for a reason, you have to be asleep to experience it.
Im English, and I certainly wouldnt say England is the best country in the world, its rapidly being diminished by globalists, and is no longer recognisable from when I was young, and without having toured the world visiting many other countries I wouldnt dare call England the best country in the world. Im not even sure what the definition of English is anymore.



posted on May, 28 2014 @ 03:15 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: amkia
2 days and still looking for “the official” release of what OP says in Iranian media…

NOTHING

Still nothing..! not a damn thing I wonder what are these” known shills” are pointing at.


2 days of you and others complaining and attacking people yet failing to refute the information in the article, let alone post your own sources that point to something other than what's in the op.

no.... no... wait.. nope - not surprised.




Get your acts together” propagandist” and be real for once in your life time and stop lying..!

Day 3.. still NOTHING about what the BS you are trying to spread around..



posted on May, 28 2014 @ 03:26 PM
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I am not the admin/moderator or site owner, If I were............. I would remove you posts to the “HOX” section 10 pages ago.

Consider yourself lucky dude that so far have a VOICE.



posted on May, 28 2014 @ 03:31 PM
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originally posted by: amkia
I am not the admin/moderator or site owner, If I were............. I would remove you posts to the “HOX” section 10 pages ago.

Consider yourself lucky dude that so far have a VOICE.

may i ask what u are tking bout?


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posted on May, 28 2014 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: amkia

Sad that you are incapable of refuting facts so all you have left is childish name calling and a demand to remove information you don't like.

By all means.. continue your temper tantrum..


Maybe you will actually come across information to add to the conversation instead of threatening people. I would point out that your behavior is no better than the top Turban's, Putin's or the Chinese who commonly attack people when they cant refute the facts.

Its humorous to watch backward people try to make a case while trying to restrict facts and information. It certainly explains why Iran is trapped in the 9th century while arresting their own for dancing to a song. It makes footloose look like a Baptist revival.

sad.. pathetic and yet not surprising coming from Iran. The only way the current regime in Iran can keep control is to control the people.








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posted on May, 28 2014 @ 05:55 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: amkia

Sad that you are incapable of refuting facts so all you have left is childish name calling and a demand to remove information you don't like.

By all means.. continue your temper tantrum..


Maybe you will actually come across information to add to the conversation instead of threatening people. I would point out that your behavior is no better than the top Turban's, Putin's or the Chinese who commonly attack people when they cant refute the facts.

Its humorous to watch backward people try to make a case while trying to restrict facts and information. It certainly explains why Iran is trapped in the 9th century while arresting their own for dancing to a song. It makes footloose look like a Baptist revival.

sad.. pathetic and yet not surprising coming from Iran. The only way the current regime in Iran can keep control is to control the people.









They may get arrested for dancing to a song, but kids get killed by the police in America for the crime of having a BB gun.
No due process, just summary execution. You think that is okay and defend the officer involved.

As for the part I bolded, you could well be talking of America.

A lot of pots shouting black at kettles.
The US government kills its own citizens for political gain on 911, and yet no one has been prosecuted for it.

You speak about the Iranians as if they are subhuman, trying to paint your "enemies" as subhuman is a classic technique to get people behind killing the "enemy". A tried and tested propaganda technique.
The Iranian people are people, just like you and me. There is nothing special about any of us, we are all the same, living in different situations.
The US financial elite(the true power in america) represents you as much as the british financial elite represents me.
Since when did our corrupted leaders represent the "common person" aka you and me?

They dont speak for me, and the Ayatollah doesnt speak for them.

If I judged the whole of America based on GW Bush, then damn.



posted on May, 28 2014 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: OneManArmy

nice try... No Iranians are subhuman... Just their leadership and their religious Junta head.

Trying to insinuate a person has an ethnocentric disposition when it comes to Iranians is also a tactic used by those who cant refute facts so they once again target the person posting in hopes to distract others to the thread itself.

nice try but a failure....

This is about Iran.. If you wish to discuss the US please form your own new thread and discuss it there.

And you and Amika don't speak for the rest.

since you forgot, this is the topic -


Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, all but said on Sunday that negotiations over the country’s illicit nuclear program are over and that the Islamic Republic’s ideals include destroying America.

“Those (Iranians) who want to promote negotiation and surrender to the oppressors and blame the Islamic Republic as a warmonger in reality commit treason,” Khamenei told a meeting of members of parliament, according to the regime’s Fars News Agency.

Khamenei emphasized that without a combative mindset, the regime cannot reach its higher Islamic role against the “oppressors’ front.”

“The reason for continuation of this battle is not the warmongering of the Islamic Republic. Logic and reason command that for Iran, in order to pass through a region full of pirates, needs to arm itself and must have the capability to defend itself,” he said.

“Today’s world is full of thieves and plunderers of human honor, dignity and morality who are equipped with knowledge, wealth and power, and under the pretence of humanity easily commit crimes and betray human ideals and start wars in different parts of the world.”

In response to a question by a parliamentarian on how long this battle will continue, Khamenei said,“Battle and jihad are endless because evil and its front continue to exist. … This battle will only end when the society can get rid of the oppressors’ front with America at the head of it, which has expanded its claws on human mind, body and thought. … This requires a difficult and lengthy struggle and need for great strides.”

Khamenei cited the scientific advancement of the country. “The accelerated scientific advancement of the last 12 years cannot stop under any circumstances,” he said, referring to the strides the regime has made toward becoming a nuclear power.

As reported on May 19 on The Daily Caller, Iran has put up new roadblocks to reaching a deal with the P5+1 world powers over its illicit nuclear program. The powers are the permanent members of the U.N. Security Council, plus Germany.

Three days of negotiations in the fourth round of Geneva meetings ended recently without concrete results when the Iranian team presented the country’s new “red lines” — diminishing any hope by the Obama administration to claim victory in its approach to Iran’s nuclear ambitions, according to reports from Iran.





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posted on May, 28 2014 @ 06:09 PM
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What right does any nuclear nation have to tell another nation they cannot go nuclear?

On what planet is it plausible that Iran would seek to start a war with the west? Its not this one.
The real fanatics arent in Iran, they are coming out of Saudi Arabia, oh but they are allies right?
Would be about right with the fanatics we have running our own governments.
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posted on May, 28 2014 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra




Trying to insinuate a person has an ethnocentric disposition when it comes to Iranians is also a tactic used by those who cant refute facts so they once again target the person posting in hopes to distract others to the thread itself.



Hey you are the one who used the term "turbans". Ive never seen a headdress go to war with anybody.
So now we have to watch our for the Sikh's too? What have the sikhs done?
Or do you mean ragheads? Or maybe some other derogatory term?
I dont think you hold any particular prejudice against any one nationality, I think you liberally discriminate against them all.

As for the whole "news" item, its blah, blah ,blah. Be scared, be very scared, blah, blah , blah, be scared some more, filler, more filler, ze evil west, blah, blah blah.



posted on May, 28 2014 @ 06:20 PM
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The NPT signed by Iran for starters..

the Ayatollah stating the development of nuclear weapons was a no go.

And the evidence that Iran has been lying about its nuclear program and has refused to abide by the NPT.

As for starting a war with the west apparently you failed to read the op where the Ayatollah stated the US must end.

So you tell me.. On what planet of wonder and make believe does the Ayatollah think he can accomplish his goal of ending the US without the use of nuclear weapons?

And I have never seen a President go to war with anyone either.
As for the sheiks they have never done anything towards the Us that I am familiar with... Aside from challenging US military dress codes for the right to where their religious headdress, which they can.

Out of curiosity are you incapable of remaining on topic with Iran and its absurdities?
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posted on May, 28 2014 @ 10:40 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: OneManArmy

The NPT signed by Iran for starters..

the Ayatollah stating the development of nuclear weapons was a no go.

And the evidence that Iran has been lying about its nuclear program and has refused to abide by the NPT.

As for starting a war with the west apparently you failed to read the op where the Ayatollah stated the US must end.

So you tell me.. On what planet of wonder and make believe does the Ayatollah think he can accomplish his goal of ending the US without the use of nuclear weapons?

And I have never seen a President go to war with anyone either.
As for the sheiks they have never done anything towards the Us that I am familiar with... Aside from challenging US military dress codes for the right to where their religious headdress, which they can.




Conflict with Iran is very unlikely. The risks associated with even a limited military action would likely lead to economic disaster for the west. If the bomb were dropped on Iranian subterranean facilities it would mean full retaliation and the mess that would result, such as the doubling in cost per barrel. All the bravado doesn't really amount to anything. Really the west is impinged on one side by dependency on Arabs and on the other by Russian energy. The options are quite limited.

Iran may eventually have nuclear tipped missiles capable of reaching America. But I think in the end, it's really not to their advantage, since they could never use them under the ultimate penalty of being wiped off of the map and extinct as a species. Washington doesn't want them to have nukes because it's a tool of critical diplomacy that forces the superpowers to engage them on a higher equilibrium.

The US is much too arrogant a power to negotiate on such a level with a nation whose democracy it destroyed for control of its petroleum reserves.



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posted on May, 28 2014 @ 10:42 PM
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"The risks associated with even a limited military action would likely lead to economic disaster for the west."

What about from the East?

thier pretty Oil Hungry,, too the East,,next door,,


a reply to: Gianfar

What would America say? u cant attack Iran, cause we are??


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posted on May, 28 2014 @ 10:57 PM
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originally posted by: BobAthome
"The risks associated with even a limited military action would likely lead to economic disaster for the west."

What about from the East?

thier pretty Oil Hungry,, too the East,,next door,,


a reply to: Gianfar

What would America say? u cant attack Iran, cause we are??






Can u be more specific in your question?



posted on May, 29 2014 @ 11:59 AM
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Keep using the economic disaster excuse... When it does not pan out that way what excuse will you use next? Iran's self importance in terms of oil is one of their problems, and those who think Iran removal from OPEC would be a disaster need to learn history.

Iran barely has the means to defend itself from the US / Iran so to make a threat against the United States accomplishes what exactly? To demonstrate to the Iranian people how they are viewed as expendable by the Iranian government? When the Iranian government has to base its existence on agitating its own people to shift focus, it says their government is not as stable as they think it is.

Something Iranians would know about if they were allowed to view something other than Iranian state media.



posted on May, 29 2014 @ 12:37 PM
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Iran barely has the means to defend itself from the US / Iran so to make a threat against the United States accomplishes what exactly?


We'll disagree, I'm sure, but I had to say, that is by far the furthest statement from anything like the true state of the military situation out there as one can get, in my humble opinion, and you know I've spent real hard time into forming that opinion about order of battle for Iran.

They are next to worthless on offensive power, and that is a fact. They couldn't secure and hold the Persian Gulf, as a virtual bathtub in size to their own landmass and almost 80 million people. However, they never went that direction, either. They've put 3 decades of oil wealth into...not offense..but defense. Extreme, layered and deep defense from the beach of the Persian Gulf to the beach of the Caspian Sea.

If we face Iran with the forces and strength to take on a weaker nation...we'll have our heads handed to us like the Persian Empire they still hold the pride from, was apt to do as a deliberate tactic of battle. 'Let them underestimate'...as historic wars went...for war isn't about image, but body count and he who laughs last is the only voice left alive to be heard on a battlefield.

We won't be laughing if we continually underestimate every nation in the world as if we're God-Like in superiority, IMO.



posted on May, 29 2014 @ 12:40 PM
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Defense geared towards a land invasion, not air. The air defense of Iran is weak compared to standards used. Granted they are trying to plug in the new Russian parts however it does not replace their entire defense grid.

The simple fact you pointed out about defense makes the ayatollahs statement all the more bizarre and continues to lend credence to the theory he has lost his damn mind.



posted on May, 29 2014 @ 12:48 PM
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Cath.. The air defense of Iran is among the strongest and most layered systems on Earth. I have no idea where you're coming from on this, because missiles in both surface to air and surface to surface ARE where their billions have gone for a couple full generations now.

Their air force sucks, their navy is great..for ONE battle (The Hormuz..it's all that's about for the most part) and they couldn't field a land army to invade a rowdy troop of Girl Scouts selling cookies. However...get above their vast expanses of..endless mountain ridges and valleys...and we'll likely learn what layered defense in hiding is all about.

They've had decades and 3 wars to watch for preparation to something they've know was better than even odds WOULD come to happen eventually. To think they haven't prepared at least as much as we have (as their singular focus, compared to our '1 of many items to watch' approach) We're insulting them in a way that may be terminal for us.

The raw numbers, raw facts and tech spec sheets to the systems they control and have deployed simply don't describe a nation with anything but a very robust defense system, in my educated opinion.



posted on May, 29 2014 @ 01:20 PM
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As for starting a war with the west apparently you failed to read the op where the Ayatollah stated the US must end.



No I read that.

President Imadinnerjacket was supposedly banging on about wiping Israel off the face of the map, but yet Israel remains and Imadinnerjacket does not.

Im not sure if you are aware.... there is a distinct difference between blowing hot air and taking action.
Everything Ive stated in this thread is relevant to the OP or its poster.
There is no conceivable way that Iran can wage war with the USA, it just doesnt have the capability or the support of its own people for that. It would be suicide for Iran to start a war.
With or without nukes.
But go poking the hornets nest and their business partners who do have the ability to wage war with the USA, and they most certainly will defend their own interests. Its so much easier to win a war with guerilla tactics while defending than it ever is launch an attack.

Hasnt Afghanistan, Iraq & Vietnam taught you anything?

Interestingly I checked out the source(Fars news agency) story linked by The Daily Caller, used google translate and no mention of destroying America. A few passages didnt translate, but still nothing that insinuated anything like destroying America.

Iran doesnt need to destroy America, America is destroying itself.
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