originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe
a reply to: criticalhit
You should read his manifesto. I am over half way through it and it voids most of the points you make. He had a good childhood (from his own
admission) with loving parents. He was well travelled before he even hit puberty and since he attended summer school on at least one occasion (so
far), his parents weren't on his arse constantly about grades.
It seems to me thus far that he had some extreme social anxiety from the very beginning. I don't see the bullying he claimed happened as being severe
enough (again... so far) to cause a killing spree. In fact it was tame to say the least (yet again, so far). He perceived a lot of wrong doings as
personal when it wasn't. He perceived a lot of slights as personal when they weren't slights or personal.
It appears to me that he put himself where he was by his own thoughts and his own actions. Everyone around him were just living their life and he
seemed to perceive that in ways that weren't accurate most all of the time.
I am going to finish reading it, as much as it sucks simply because I started it. So far my opinion is that he perceived the entire world out to get
him and had really no one to blame for it other than his own feelings of inadequacy fostered by no one other than himself.
Through his own admissions, he didn't even fully know about sex until he was around 13. He saw a glimpse of porn from a friend when he was 12 and said
it terrified him. He had no clue that was what men and women did together. So being overexposed didn't occur either unless he lied in his manifesto
and most of it is so embarrassing, I don't know why he would.
He shows a lot of love for his mother and father. He talks about how his mother went out of her way for him and life with her was always enjoyable. He
loved his father very much as well and admired him even though he was gone a lot on business. He knew they both loved him and other than summer camp
and one sleepover he admits to... he was always at home. The first time he left home to go somewhere on his own he was 17.
Unless a lot changes between now and the end of the manifesto....
He had issues, but I do not think his parents were/are what you are assuming them to be.
You know, let me go back over this in defense of what i'm saying, I'm not trying to bag the parents as responsible but more to point out what our kids
are exposed to unwittingly and what the best intention-ed modern parenting methods lead to...
From the start... went to summer school, this completely backs up what i'm saying in that he 'wasn't as bright as his parents wanted him to be" now
i'm not saying they didn't take psych 101, that they were mean about it, or didn't show him love, but these things don't matter when a child Knows
what his parents really want from him, it's being gathered he was autistic... you went on to say a lot of this was his inability to perceive
correctly, blow things out of proportion... YES, he knew, inside he wasn't as bright as they wanted him to be and amplified this. Next you talk of
well traveled... on the outside this might seem great, but it goes right along with "no childhood" a hotel in France isn't learning normal social
skills, lets be "real" if his perceptions were a little amplified... what would that be like? Seeing other cultures young, lets go with his very
attitude, we are culture-less, kind of stupid, behave badly...that sort of thing. It's true... I myself got to see Japanese students young, my god...
it annoyed the crud out of me to return to an American system...now "amplify that" from a pov of mildly autistic, exaggerate it... it might be an
amazing gesture from mom and dad but not "good"
Next we skip to the porn... didn't see porn until age 13? What causes a fetish? Intense exposure to sex and emotion... he uses the term "terrified" I
have to throw my bet... that the manner of exposure fetish-ed him on something embarrassing, given his racial rants about sex with white girls I got
bucks he was in the large Phallus/inter racial category and given his nature took it as "real" the stuff is meant to make an impact by humiliation as
and to end it.. "Dad WAS gone a lot", mom loved him "went out of the way a lot" A normal kid would complain about that... what i'm saying is obvious
here, Mom definitively let it be known she "went out of the way" aka gave stuff up she rather be doing, dad wasn't around...a normal kid would rag
them... this goes right on with what i was saying "fixated" on pleasing them, not being good enough, and if Dad wasn't around, mom definitely had the
medicine cabinet or bar i mentioned, he talks of turning down drugs because he didn't think "they were right for him" soooo... he had a knowledge of
pharmacology from somewhere, he's just telling it as he sees it...
All i'm saying again is... our society can produce some weirdness in how contrived it's become, all the details are right here.... Basically raised by
a woman with Dad not around enough, psych babble mush talk but really not living up to"expectations" early "extreme" given the circumstances "porn
exposure", never left home until 17, i.e. media reared... let's now add, mild victim of an ill of modern society "autism" never getting out much,
trips to france instead of "friends"
I bet... when he got in trouble he got "time out" lol
The real world, he didn't live in, I am guessing 100% this kids parents did "everything right" by modern standards.... what i'm saying is "The new
normal" is seriously messed up....
edit on 26-5-2014 by criticalhit because: (no reason given)