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The thought before a thought............

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posted on May, 26 2014 @ 07:49 PM
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There is an article I'm reading as part of my Criminology course - the article in its entirety isn't available online and I haven't read the whole thing yet - is very technical and trippy - is questioning if its even possible to have free will because of a process that happens 'unconsciously' before we even have a thought. Somehow science has been able to find this - something about a somatic marker framework providing a system-level neuroanatomical and cognitive framework for decision making - that decision making depends on neural substrates that 'regulate' homeostasis, emotion and feeling (I paraphrased that last part, have little idea what it really means, lol) It goes into extreme detail about 'non-conscious' operation of somatic states, therein lies the question if we even have free will if decisions are made before we even have the thought... Here is an abstract about the article:


Decision making and free will: a neuroscience perspective. Burns K1, Bechara A. Author information Abstract A thorough analysis of the question of whether we possess "free will" requires that we take into account the process of exercising that will: that is, the neural mechanisms of decision making. Much of what we know about these mechanisms indicates that decision making is greatly influenced by implicit processes that may not even reach consciousness. Moreover, there exist conditions, for example certain types of brain injury or drug addiction, in which an individual can be said to have a disorder of the will. Examples such as these demonstrate that the idea of freedom of will on which our legal system is based is not supported by the neuroscience of decision making. Using the criminal law as an example, we discuss how new discoveries in neuroscience can serve as a tool for reprioritizing our society's legal intuitions in a way that leads us to a more effective and humane system. Copyright (c) 2007 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
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posted on May, 26 2014 @ 08:30 PM
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posted on May, 26 2014 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: Cauliflower

In the sense, of,the development, of the hidden self and untangling the disorder,to self determine.
Did choice in belief exact the science or science Jefferson/Wadsworth's Cipher?



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: Fingle

For many years ROT13 was used on usenet to prevent casual BOT search scanners.
The Wadsworth's Cipher appears to be similar in complexity.
The only belief a user of either system would have is that the intended receiver would have decryption capability.



posted on May, 27 2014 @ 05:03 PM
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The thought before the thought, yourself, modifying your own perception, of your reality and your, finite evolution, your expansion your expression field, it is acutely within, to enable and explore, the choice, is yours, in your Free will, the energy expression, for your own personal yield, of, yourself, investment, your Free will, your own, individual, exploration, of you personal choice, expansion potential.


Really think on and understand, if you choose, to see, how saturated, we are, by our belief-systems, relative, or maybe, can be, might not be, you decide? Space and time are both finite, in, the expression, they yield, to you, as nothing cannot be, as infinite is the occurring value to change, so only change is infinite or is it, is your potential, that being, your, energetically transforming reality modification relay, True essence, The thought before the thought!

In the creation, of illusionary consciousness, nature, flow, absorption, growth, renewal is evident, in the majority of organisms, so a system, energy form/force label it what you Will, is replicating from an original state, so how does the motivation of its, evolving motivation, of anything, other than a non molecule atom that has no plan for furthering, its existence exist .

Illusionary consciousness must have some form of will to input and output its thoughts within, to ignite the outward will of consciousness, to enable the nature, flow, absorption, growth. The thought before the thought?

Thomas Campbell My Big TOE thank you vethumanbeing

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posted on May, 27 2014 @ 06:28 PM
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So the entirety within us, is the vibration, the circulating navigational, wave form energy, within each thought, relaying, potentiality factors, through our internal circuitry, to emit frequency and charge electrical capacity, within each thought ,ingested through our consciousness, further stimulating, the creative void of existence, creating always from the initial illusion, to recreate form the dark matter the dark energy the pitch the equation the math’s the probability the data, to expand the realm, through the mass of one mindset powering the totalisation of the constant loop of expanding the infinite creation source, All of us everything, the thought before a thought.



posted on May, 27 2014 @ 07:26 PM
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originally posted by: Fingle
a reply to: Fingle

So the entirety within us, is the vibration, the circulating navigational, wave form energy, within each thought, relaying, potentiality factors, through our internal circuitry, to emit frequency and charge electrical capacity, within each thought ,ingested through our consciousness, further stimulating, the creative void of existence, creating always from the initial illusion, to recreate form the dark matter the dark energy the pitch the equation the math’s the probability the data, to expand the realm, through the mass of one mindset powering the totalisation of the constant loop of expanding the infinite creation source, All of us everything, the thought before a thought.


Pretty much its all on you and tell your cells to behave themselves because you are in charge as the host being and care about them as in (don't rebel or run amuck as cancerous and kill the body). Universal energy is available to help rebalance; just bring it in, through your crown chakra and allow it to correct the body (where is Metaphysics, not being taught in primer schools). What people don't realize is that you do not need a religious dogma belief system or a doctorate in the hard sciences to accomplish this. Just ask for help (give up pride/fear) and you shall receive (someone else said this).



posted on May, 27 2014 @ 11:31 PM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

Brother you always have the most intellectual wisdom to share.



posted on May, 28 2014 @ 12:14 AM
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a reply to: Fingle The only crime you can commit is to try to exert your will over other people.



posted on May, 28 2014 @ 01:16 AM
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a reply to: Fingle

The thought before a thought, before an action, before intention.... That is where Real Magic exists. Master this action, and you will master the world.



posted on May, 28 2014 @ 05:16 AM
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Prior to a thought arising what is there? Is a thought required to produce a thought?
What is a thought? A word?

The word 'I' arises, a thought, just a word that produces stories of before and after, more and more words - out of what do these words appear from and where do the words go when they are here no more?
There is nothing prior to words and there is nothing after. What were the words made of when they appeared?



posted on May, 28 2014 @ 10:25 AM
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Fear, pride entangled with self-will, the emotional tool-set, self-will possibly being the intellect? Then free-will being the essence of our current existence, totality?

Self will, could be seen as manipulating, its dominance to gain control, of, how we think, of,our-selves, maybe the driving force, behind the ego?

Aligning to freewill, could be a way,to letting: fear, pride, self-will, detach from within, to begin, to understand consciousness, without, the intellectual preconceptions, bringing the I of all closer to being,.

Then, is the thought, before a thought, a thought understanding, its energy attachment, to link, specific reason, within its own memory, to reproduce?

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posted on May, 28 2014 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Prior to a thought arising what is there? Is a thought required to produce a thought?
What is a thought? A word?

The word 'I' arises, a thought, just a word that produces stories of before and after, more and more words - out of what do these words appear from and where do the words go when they are here no more?
There is nothing prior to words and there is nothing after. What were the words made of when they appeared?


Itsnowagain, Im thinking of changing my name to "HowSoonIsNow" but might infringe on your trademark.
It shouldn't be a word randomly tossed out as you can see the problems with that historically,(group thought 'hatred' towards another entire race for instance). I think the more complex the thought form the better its utilized, and it doesn't have to contain words at all, more the basic 'conceptualization' of your intended expression (in the positive hopefully). If released with pure intent to the ether has a better chance of being 'heard' or absorbed by those in the higher dimensions, or "the field" of energy they are within. We never used words a long time ago as we were telepathic; so no one could lie, all truth was known as far as any intent of action, it kept us honest with each other. Hum when did we loose this ability?
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posted on May, 28 2014 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: Fingle
Fear, pride entangled with self-will, the emotional tool-set, self-will possibly being the intellect? Then free-will being the essence of our current existence, totality?

Self will, could be seen as manipulating, its dominance to gain control, of, how we think, of,our-selves, maybe the driving force, behind the ego?

Aligning to freewill, could be a way,to letting: fear, pride, self-will, detach from within, to begin, to understand consciousness, without, the intellectual preconceptions, bringing the I of all closer to being,.

You have two brain hemispheres; right is imagination; conceptualization, visualization; freewill resides there. Left brain is calculating; self preservation It's me or the highway; self will resides there. You are right, align more to freewill and let go of self will as Ego and its baldheaded children, superego, Id are destructive (necessary to keep one alive but hey this isn't the dark ages and there really is nothing to fear as there is a convenience store on every corner). I've heard this," let go and let God"; not in that camp of thought exactly but if one is so self consumed with preservation where is the time to look outside of yourself and start recognizing your affiliation to a better you (creator god that you are). Oh I forgot to mention the OTHER brain that is supposed to connect the two, the region between (donut shape) that holds the pituitary, Hypothalamus and Pineal gland; actual function of to connect to our higher self.
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posted on Jun, 6 2014 @ 04:18 PM
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The Thought before thought is the intention, the true desire, the purity of intent, to merge, with the input and output, electro magnetism distribution system of reality, to create flow, partially positive and negative, in the purity combination of thought, the energy internally relayed to the magnetic fusion exhaust into reality, the illusion within the illusion.

Your purity of intent determines, your choice: free will or self will.

Self will, becomes Inhibitors imprints to distort the intent: Our memory imprints can potentially divert or redirect the flow purity of our Freewill, becoming conditioners = self-will....

• parental imprints,
• Cognitive inhibition, the mind's ability to tune out irrelevant stimuli
• Reuptake inhibitor, a substance that increases neurotransmission by blocking the reuptake of a neurotransmitter
• Inhibition of return, a feature of attention
• Inhibition theory, a theory pertaining to the performance of a mental task
• Latent inhibition, a term used in classical conditioning
• Lateral inhibition, a neural mechanism that increases contrast between active and (neighbouring) inactive neurons
• Memory inhibition, processes that suppress or interfere with specific memories
• Sexual inhibition, reservations relating to sexual practices
• Social inhibition, a conditioned fear reaction to social marginalization or isolation
• Inhibitory postsynaptic potential, a synaptic potential that decreases the firing of a neuro

en.wikipedia.org...

It is in this material realm, that the material, of life ingested, needs to be balanced, then, it is in essence, the consummation and then the penultimate alignment, that gives us the output.
This is why being balanced, can enable you, to balance any and all situations, You Become.



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posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

The spoken resonance is but the sound quantified to surround the sense within the breath of it the (I) the repetitions revolve around the absorption of incomplete definition of absolute in essence becoming resonance in the spoken and unspoken of each and every vibrational energy pattern proir to the 7 and after 7 of nothing and absolute.............................
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posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 06:00 PM
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Did thought or emotion come first? Think about it.
Emotions are induced by unconscious processes in most cases, and emotions lead to thoughts. This is a reciprocal relationship.



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 06:27 PM
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Possibly the feeling before the thought the breath (I) resonance/energy emotion absorbed through the gland to stimulate the heart to produce the thought the feeling the duality the action into existence the reciprocal relationship the two enter-ties the ego the self the search within, the external world for.......... ?



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: Dianec
Did thought or emotion come first? Think about it.
Emotions are induced by unconscious processes in most cases, and emotions lead to thoughts. This is a reciprocal relationship.


Sort of like the old Bob Seger lyrics?


We felt the lightning And we waited on the thunder Waited on the thunder



posted on Sep, 26 2014 @ 06:52 PM
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Did thought or emotion come first? Think about it.
Emotions are induced by unconscious processes in most cases, and emotions lead to thoughts. This is a reciprocal relationship.


There is evidence that the bacteria in our gut influences our thoughts. Is the mind, therefor, still in the head?



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