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I like you vethumanbeing, I do not want you think I am here to argue. Jesus is God, He established the RCC. Why do people limit God? I am
not saying you but, the Eucharist is God's plan, His desire to come to us in the humble CONSECRATED host.
[I]colbe[/I]It goes right over some folk's head. Why do Satanists mimic the Mass with their Black Masses and why do Satanists
steal consecrated hosts to desecrate? Maybe because the most Holy Eucharist is true. Satan believes. To follow this line to the Great Tribulation . Satan's man, the anti-Christ is going to try and abolish the Eucharist. This IS the "abomination of desolation."
originally posted by: zardust
a reply to: Utnapisjtim
I don't know, Israel was supposed to be a nation of priests to the world, and as the Israel of God, the Body of Christ are supposed to be a nation of priests to the world.
Can we agree on some aspects of this? God Bless
originally posted by: vethumanbeing
originally posted by: colbe
originally posted by: veteranhumanbeing
I like you too colbe; as you are my lifes work. Jesus is not God and he certainly didn't have any conception of establishing the RRC; if so, why not include the plethora of other Christian Dogmas (religions) including the Mormon Church (700 AD somewhere in Utah or Illinois. God has no limits as its not human; just a field of energy recognizing itself and in so doing expressed himself by the creation of the human.
Satanists abuse this because the sacred mass of the You Are Christ is so easily desecrated (YOUR PREMISE) as is a falsity and by it being so can warp use twist it to suite their needs and probably laugh at how easy this is to do; they are merely mimicking the original falsehood for evil use.
Text-Jesus was an exceptional person. He was beyond normal men in every way.
We are NOT Christ, Christ is God, we are one of His creation. God has one plan, so no need of various man-made
beliefs. Our Lord Jesus Christ established one faith, one Church. His desire is that you come to the faith. Pray, ask His help, He will give it to you. New Age is nonsense.
I am sorry you do not understand evil Satanists despise and desecrate the sacred host because the host IS Our Lord. It is God's desire to come to us in this manner. You can't answer why would Satanists go and steal consecrated hosts? Such an act is no "mimic" as you reply with. They need the real thing to destroy, spit on, set a fire, mock.
yoda said it best fear leads to anger anger to hate and hate to suffering. many followers have traveled down that path and my perceptions of this are true.
originally posted by: colbe
This is why St. Paul is hated?
St. Paul follows Our Lord, there is ONE Faith. "Oneness", unity of belief is a mark of Roman Catholicism. St. Paul says, "There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all." (Eph. 4:4-6).
There is NO unity of belief in non-Catholic Christianity. There's been a new sect established every week since the revolt from the Faith, October 31, 1517!
Protestants must think their professed "invisible Church" is one. Tee hee.
originally posted by: tadaman
The best way to learn about christianity is to engulf oneself in traditional jewish teachings.
The late Rabbi Stephen F. Wise, formerly the Chief Rabbi of the United States said, "The return from Babylon and the introduction of the Babylonian Talmud mark the end of Hebrewism and the beginning of Judaism."
The learned Rabbi was correct in distinguishing the true religion of the Old Testament as Hebrewism for it was the religion of the real Hebrews, who were not Jews at all. Judaism, the religion of the Jews, is as the learned Rabbi says, based upon the Babylonian Talmud, which contains the supposed oral law. It was never reduced to writing as part of the Bible. This oral law gradually gained greater force among the Jews than the written law in the Bible, with which it often conflicted in Jesus' day, the Babylonian Talmud was known as the Tradition of the Elders.
This was the religion of the Jews. As the learned Rabbi Stephen F. Wise said, Judaism was distinguished from Hebrewism, the real religion of the Old Testament. Certainly Christianity took nothing from any Jewish religion for we have never taken any part of Christianity from the Talmud. Well then, can it be said we got our Bible or our religion of Christianity from men of the Jewish race? No, it cannot.
The Bible is not a Jewish Book
Judaism is a secret Satanic cult posing as a religion "Hoffman's book is required reading for understanding the Satanic mindset driving both the Illuminati and New World Order." Link
He uses quotes from famous Rabbis to make his case, which is, that Judaism is not the Old Testament religion that many believe. It's a mishmash of various pagan superstitions that go back to Babylonian times. It is a religion of racial self-worship.
It is said in the Talmud that Jesus deserved what he got. There was no resurrection. He is burning in Hell in boiling hot feces. The Talmud mocks Jesus and the hatred of Him is incessant. Those who read the Gospels go to hell.
Hoffman seems to be one of the few out there in this fight against the Talmudists. Why? The Talmud is full of FILTH and HATE.
After reading this far, the reader must agree, that there is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. Judaism is the antithesis of Christianity. The Old Testament belongs to Christians, not Jews. The God given laws of Moses have been negated by Judaism. And what about Christian-Zionists? Perhaps they have been brainwashed by the Scofield bible. I hope that the reader will send some of these people a link to this review.
And that leads me to this. I agree with Hoffman, that Judaism is a religion based on deceit. To his credit, it is an ideology which he fights, not a racial group. The Talmud is a book full of extreme hate and filth.
A Review of the book "Judaism Discovered"
“A NON-JEW WHO STUDIES THE TALMUD IS LIABLE for execution,” opens the pages of Michael A Hoffman’s masterwork, Judaism Discovered.
— “Readers of this book are forewarned: There is a death penalty for critics of Judaism who study the Talmud according to Sanhedrin 59a.” —
In exposing Judaism, Michael Hoffman states in his Introduction that his book Judaism Discovered would find itself beyond the normative protections of free speech. Indeed, this has already occurred with the banning of the sale of the book by Amazon.com.
Hoffman then takes ‘modern’ Christians to task for furthering the myth of a ‘Judeo-Christian’ tradition:
“The Church Fathers knew of no ‘Judeo-Christian’ tradition since Judaism as we know it today did not exist before Christ.
Before Christ, there was only the faith of the Israelites, until by a gradual process, the pure faith of the Israelites was subverted by corrupt teachings.
These corrupt teachings were transmitted orally by the Pharisees. Christ condemned these teachings when calling them the ‘traditions of the elders.’”
Review: "Judaism Discovered"
“JUDAISM ONLY PAYS LIP SERVICE TO THE BIBLE,” writes Michael A Hoffman in Chapter 5 of his masterwork, Judaism Discovered.
“The Bible is not a factor in the formation of rabbinic law except as a front for what are man-made enactments and figments of rabbinic imagination.” Judaism Discovered, Chapter 5.
Hoffman then points out that not only do the rabbis claim a superior status of the Talmud over the Bible, but go even further, that they, the rabbis, are superior to God!
JUDAISM DISCOVERED - A Review Pt II
But when the archangel (chief messenger) Michael, discerning with the devil, reasoned about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.” Jude 1:9
Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 1 Corinthians 12:27
Acts 17:2 As was his custom, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures
Acts 17:17 So he reasoned in the synagogue with both Jews and God-fearing Greeks
Acts 18:4 Every Sabbath he reasoned in the synagogue, trying to persuade Jews and Greeks.
Acts 18:19 They arrived at Ephesus, where Paul left Priscilla and Aquila. He himself went into the synagogue and reasoned with the Jews.
Acts 19:8 Paul entered the synagogue and spoke boldly there for three months, arguing persuasively about the kingdom of God. 9But some of them became obstinate; they refused to believe and publicly maligned the Way
originally posted by: strangechristian777
a reply to: Oldie48
You clearly haven't read the New Testament. Everything you claim that only Paul said, can be found all over the New Testament and parts of the Old Testament.
originally posted by: KaelemJames
a reply to: deadeyedick
IMO, many dislike Paul 'cos he was the one apostle who never met Jesus in the flesh, or walked with Jesus as the other disciples, yet he was the most zealous of God's house second to Christ.
We know he persecuted Christians until Jesus appeared to him, and then Paul turned his whole life around.
That Paul hated Christians before turning is a big issue with many Christians. To me it shows the great mercy of our God. Any person can turn to God at any time.
a reply to: colbe
I don't agree. Catholic means universal. Once the "Roman" were added, it lost its true meaning. Roman "Universal"? How is that universal?
Nicene Creed of 381: "I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church." It is crucially important to remember, though, that when the early Christians used the term “catholic,” they were not referring to any particular church, denomination, rite, or communion. They were simply referring to all true believers in the Lord Jesus Christ.