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150 Achievements Of Liberalism That Conservatives Seek To Destroy

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posted on May, 26 2014 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko

Were you an adult with children when Bush scared us with this lie:

January 21, 2003: Bush says of Saddam "He has weapons of mass destruction -- the world's deadliest weapons -- which pose a direct threat to the United States, our citizens and our friends and allies." [7]




posted on May, 26 2014 @ 12:09 PM
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Yes. That's one example. Were you an adult with kids when Clinton got our soldiers dragged through the streets? What about Vietnam? Korea? Republicans ended both of those wars the democrats started. So here you are using one example of Bush, a war approved by a democratic congress/senate, and projecting onto all conservatives. Get a life.

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posted on May, 26 2014 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko

Does not excuse a deliberate lie for oil. Now my grandchildren will be paying for these wars instead of the Iraqi's and the rich, another lie.



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 12:42 PM
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Boo f'ing hoo. You sound like a horrible person right now. Money??? That's what you care about? I lost family in Vietnam and Korea. This county paid in cost of human life for those wars. Stop being ignorant of our history.

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posted on May, 26 2014 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko

My dad served on the USS Franklin in WW2 and survived the crippled ship, my uncle died in the Bataan Death March stealing food from the Japanese soldiers for his buddies, two uncles in Korea, my husband Viet Nam, two brothers Viet Nam. I have as much right as you to voice my opinion.



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 01:52 PM
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all reply to: MOMof3

Apparantly the monetary value of Iraq is harder on you than the family you lost in wars instigated and continued by democrats. Good on you.



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko

At 63 yrs old, I am going to die LONG before the Iraq or Afghan war is paid for, so moot point on your part. You damn right, I don't want my grandkids to pay for wars for oil.



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 01:59 PM
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a reply to: Semicollegiate

I suppose I had higher expectations from the ATS community than to blindly argue propaganda. I assumed we were mostly well versed in the art of propaganda and it's effects and would easily dismiss it.

How does one make a motion to have an article moved to the HOAX bin? Surely propaganda fits the parameters of a HOAX. It's filled with wild accusations with absolutely no supporting documents, and it seeks division instead of knowledge. O' great moderators, DENY the IGNORANCE please.



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 02:09 PM
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Politics sometimes transcends party labels in the US, particularly foreign policy.

In foreign policy the Dems and GOP are not as divided as on domestic issues.

For instance, both Democrats and GOP fall over themselves to kiss Israelis behind.
In fact, the very liberal Senators Schumer and Bernie Sanders are staunch Israel supporters, but Sanders is practically a socialist on domestic issues.

Regarding wars, well often the “liberal” Democrats may have started more wars but this is negligible since the GOP is more militantly militarily aggressive than the Dems most of the time, eventhough there are instances where GOP members are isolationist therefore against foreign entanglements; Ron and Rand Paul are two instances of this mentality, but they are very rare in the GOP.

So both parties can be, generally speaking, classified as neo- liberal and neocons in foreign policy. This is probably because of this countries crazy connection and loyalty to Israel.

So in terms of foreign wars both parties are equally guilty of being for an aggressive neo colonial foreign policy.

The GOP and the Dems here are equally guilty, since Bush was the GOP criminal that did the war but the Dems voted for it so they have blood on their hands as well.

The big difference in them is domestic issues.



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: MOMof3

It's not even worth conversing with you anymore. People like you disgust me. You're so far up the lefts butt you fall back on bushisms to make it seem like republicans want war when democrats are responsible for millions of lives. But hey, that bill for Iraq though!!



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko

You have the freedom to call me any name you want.

Thanks to all those liberals, democrats, conservatives, republicans, atheists, christians, native americans, muslims, hispanics, whites, blacks, browns, AMERICANS who laid down their lives for us all.



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 06:37 PM
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Exactly, both sides create war. Don't try to act like one wants it more than the other because if we're gonna split hairs, statistically Democrat are responsible for more lives than Republicans.

I'm a hard core libertarian so I see positives on both sides, but I see more negative.

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posted on May, 26 2014 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: LDragonFire

Will Liberals also take credit for the 29 hour workweek that most people will have post-Obamacare?



posted on May, 27 2014 @ 06:45 AM
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a reply to: raymundoko

Yeah, but I am pissed about the Iraq War. I actively called my rep and wrote letters and did not want that stupid expensive war. Fine, you guys got your wars. My family are workers, you understand. That is who the rich and war mongerers want to pay for these wars, that oppresses their future. If the war mongerers want wars all the time, make the rich fund them. These wars are not in the past.



posted on May, 27 2014 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: LDragonFire

Talk about a Narcissistic walk around to pat each other on the back.

You really believe "Liberals" did all these things?

Granted, stuff like "The Brady Gun bill" is all yours. And what an atrocious attach and violation of the 2nd Amendment.

And the ACA of course.

It is really nice that you and the article embrace the contorting of what "Liberal" means today to what it meant just 20 years ago.

This is sadly how Progressives go through life. Thinking that they are the greatest gift open the Earth, and that without them we would lost.



posted on May, 27 2014 @ 12:26 PM
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You really don't know much about how wars work or the economics surrounding them...

www.forbes.com...
bigstory.ap.org...

We are STILL paying for Vietnam and Korea, and they cost, after inflation, 10x more than the Iraq war. So you are barking up the wrong tree.


It's been 40 years since the U.S. ended its involvement in the Vietnam War, and yet payments for the conflict are still rising.


The USA pays about 12b a year for ALL CONFLICTS since 1990. We pay 22b a year for Vietnam. So you and your children are more in the whole for Vietnam alone than all modern wars combined...quit reading propaganda blogs and learn about history and economics before taking some partisan shills word for it.



posted on May, 27 2014 @ 12:54 PM
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What a terrible list. How can liberals take credit for many of the things on this list and THEN accuse conservatives of trying to take them away? What a waste of time. Partisan trash article.



posted on May, 27 2014 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: raymundoko

Exactly. And we did not learn a thing. How many wars do you war mongers want my grandchildren to pay for?



posted on May, 27 2014 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: MOMof3

You really don't realize how you sound do you? You really thing republicans are warmongers and democrats aren't?



posted on May, 27 2014 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: raymundoko

Were you an adult with children when Bush scared us with this lie:

January 21, 2003: Bush says of Saddam "He has weapons of mass destruction -- the world's deadliest weapons -- which pose a direct threat to the United States, our citizens and our friends and allies." [7]


But 3 months prior to that the H.J. Res. 114 was voted on by both houses of congress.....



It was a bipartisan vote as you can see.




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