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A Former Congressman Is Making Explosive Allegations After Allegedly Being Told the ‘Ground Truth

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posted on May, 24 2014 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
All this proves is that either Alan West is the kind of person who believes anything he's told or that he makes s# up. How is this newsworthy? Since when is an unidentified guy on a plane who "knows a guy" a credible source for ANYTHING? If he'd been sitting next to Giorgio Tsoukalos would The Blaze be "reporting" on "A Former Congressman Is Making Explosive Allegations After Allegedly Being Told Aliens Built Pyramids?"


Even the New York Times is in on this crazy conspiracy theory since 2012.




[...] - The Obama administration secretly gave its blessing to arms shipments to Libyan rebels from Qatar last year [2012] , but American officials later grew alarmed as evidence grew that Qatar was turning some of the weapons over to Islamic militants, according to United States officials and foreign diplomats.


… the Obama administration clearly was worried about the consequences of its hidden hand in helping arm Libyan militants, concerns that have not previously been reported. The weapons and money from Qatar strengthened militant groups in Libya, allowing them to become a destabilizing force since the fall of the Qaddafi government.

[...] The United States, which had only small numbers of C.I.A. officers in Libya during the tumult of the rebellion, provided little oversight of the arms shipments. Within weeks of endorsing Qatar’s plan to send weapons there in spring 2011, the White House began receiving reports that they were going to Islamic militant groups. They were “more antidemocratic, more hard-line, closer to an extreme version of Islam” than the main rebel alliance in Libya, said a former Defense Department official. (read more)


www.nytimes.com... t_th_20121206&_r=1&





posted on May, 24 2014 @ 02:41 PM
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In 2011, Mr Obama said the Libyan rebels were “saying the right things” so far. “Most of them are professionals, lawyers, doctors, people who appear to be credible,” he told CBS.




All this proves is that either Obama is the kind of person who believes anything he's told or that he makes s# up...



posted on May, 24 2014 @ 03:30 PM
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Right: Look at what this guy is saying
Left: Nutcase...don't look
Right: Well, read and decide
Left: Nuts! Don't read this
Right: Make up your own mind
Left: NUT NUT NUT...Ignore him
Right: Give the guy a chance
Left: N...U...T...

Can't you liberals give it a break. You can't blind us or lie to us anymore so you want to divert our attention?



posted on May, 24 2014 @ 04:00 PM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Allen West just said Tammy Duckworth isn't loyal to America because she's volunteered to go on the 'special' Benghazi committee. The same Tammy Duckworth who lost both her legs in the Iraq war.

Allen West seems like a terrible human being, in my opinion.



posted on May, 24 2014 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: links234
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Allen West just said Tammy Duckworth isn't loyal to America because she's volunteered to go on the 'special' Benghazi committee. The same Tammy Duckworth who lost both her legs in the Iraq war.

Allen West seems like a terrible human being, in my opinion.


Do you have a source for West saying "Tammy Duckworth isn't loyal to America"?

All I can find is this story with a false headline, which is not him declaring "Tammy Duckworth isn't loyal to America."




"I just don’t know where her loyalties lie," West said of Duckworth, during a Wednesday night interview on "The Janet Mefferd Show." "You know, for her to have been a veteran, a wounded warrior for the United States Army, she should know that this is not the right thing," West continued. "And hopefully, you know, she will remember the oath of office that she took as an Army officer and not the allegiance I guess she believes she has to the liberal progressives of the Democrat Party."

www.huffingtonpost.com...



posted on May, 24 2014 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: Sunwolf

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance

originally posted by: jimmyx
geez....it's allen west for christs sakes....look him up...here's some of his bats**t statements....thinkprogress.org...


I never knew much about West but if that is the worst that the heavily biased "think progress" can come up with, then he does not seem bats**t to me.

I will reserve judgement until more facts come to light before judging him solely on his party affiliation.


His party has nothing to do with it the guy is a nutcase. No one should be judged because of party affiliation you judge them by their statements and this guy's statements meant show he has lost touch with reality.



Nutcase?You mean like Pelosi and Debbie Wasserman and Hillary?That kind of nutcase?


No, he meant nutcase as in ted Cruz, god incarnate. Lol so his father says but he won't deny lol...

They are all crazy and need thrown out on their arse's. Lol

The Bot



posted on May, 24 2014 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance

You got it right there. "I don't know where her loyalties lie."

All of this Benghazi talk is garbage. All of it. Democrats say the special committee is just a political stunt, Republicans say that putting democrats on the committee is a political stunt.

I genuinely don't know what this committee is supposed to do. Find out something that we already know? Of all the pressing issues in America we're still talking about Benghazi?! Go ahead though, keep talking about it, it will totally help you in the 2016 elections. Totally.



posted on May, 24 2014 @ 04:47 PM
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Wow, what a coincidence! Believe it or not, just the other day I was on a flight from San Jose headed back to LAX and sat next to this guy who related to me some similarly shocking facts about the Benghazi affair. Man, just wait til the committee gets ahold of this. It’s the biggest thing since the fake moon landing!

Turns out he was told by this guy he sat next to on a previous flight, who had a friend who’s cousin knew a guy who’s brother was an undercover agent in Libya at the time. He made me swear to secrecy about this, so please don’t let this get around. If confronted, I’ll just deny any knowledge of it. Anyway, what actually came down was Obama, Hillary and the whole bunch over there in the Whitehouse were working directly with Al Qaeda and plotted the whole thing. Then they told our guys to stand down, since Al Qaeda promised them they wouldn’t hurt anyone, but would just do a little damage to the building to make it look good. Well, it turns out those Al Qaeda guys are just little stinkers and fibbed to the Pres. You just can’t trust anyone these days! Anyway, with an election coming up and all, those nasty democrats had to come up with something, and we all know the rest...

Boy, when the committee gets ahold of this bombshell and blows the lid off, it’ll be like the shot heard around the world. In the meantime, though, if anyone asks, please do me a huge favor: tell them you heard it from Allen West. That will give it some credibility.

Thanks!



posted on May, 24 2014 @ 04:51 PM
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originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
Right: Look at what this guy is saying
Left: Nutcase...don't look
Right: Well, read and decide
Left: Nuts! Don't read this
Right: Make up your own mind
Left: NUT NUT NUT...Ignore him
Right: Give the guy a chance
Left: N...U...T...

Can't you liberals give it a break. You can't blind us or lie to us anymore so you want to divert our attention?


Right: A guy said that a guy on a plane said that a third guy told him "the truth," so it must be true.
Left: You believed him? That's nuts!
Right: Give me a break! You're just trying to lie to me!
Left: Uhh.. okay.
Right: You don't know anything! You need to wake up!
Left: You're not making any sense.
Right: You hate America!



posted on May, 24 2014 @ 06:49 PM
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You guys that support West are missing a GOLDEN opportunity here...

Those that disagree with West's statements, are clearly...

RACISTS!

And they should be ashamed of themselves.

It's clearly not what he is saying, but the color of his skin that offends them.



posted on May, 24 2014 @ 08:00 PM
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a reply to: schadenfreude

I can't do that ,I have self respect.



posted on May, 24 2014 @ 08:01 PM
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originally posted by: Bilk22

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance

originally posted by: jimmyx
geez....it's allen west for christs sakes....look him up...here's some of his bats**t statements....thinkprogress.org...


I never knew much about West but if that is the worst that the heavily biased "think progress" can come up with, then he does not seem bats**t to me.

I will reserve judgement until more facts come to light before judging him solely on his party affiliation.


His party has nothing to do with it the guy is a nutcase. No one should be judged because of party affiliation you judge them by their statements and this guy's statements does show he has lost touch with reality.
Yeah a real nutcase.



West's awards and decorations include the Bronze Star; Meritorious Service Medal (two Oak Leaf Clusters); Army Commendation Medal (three Oak Leaf Clusters, one Valor Device); Army Achievement Medal (one Oak Leaf Cluster); Valorous Unit Award; Air Assault Badge; and the Master Parachutist Badge.[3][15]


We know how much respect the left has for the military. So what's your opinion of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi? Stable individuals, huh? lol

So just because he was in the military he is always right? I'm a veteran does that mean I'm right to? Your left not liking the military is funny though seeing how it's the right that keeps cutting funds for the veterans. Btw I'm an independent it's the people that vote left or right that's the problem with this country.



posted on May, 24 2014 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance

originally posted by: jimmyx
geez....it's allen west for christs sakes....look him up...here's some of his bats**t statements....thinkprogress.org...


I never knew much about West but if that is the worst that the heavily biased "think progress" can come up with, then he does not seem bats**t to me.

I will reserve judgement until more facts come to light before judging him solely on his party affiliation.


His party has nothing to do with it the guy is a nutcase. No one should be judged because of party affiliation you judge them by their statements and this guy's statements does show he has lost touch with reality.


Interesting, that is generally what liberals say about any black people who are not aligned with liberal progressive agendas.

Are you sure you're not judging the book by its cover here?

The real test in whether what he says here has any validity to it will come only with substantive proof. You are dismissing his statements prematurely.

If you were a conservative, and were saying things like this about a black liberal, you'd be called a racist.


Didn't take long before somebody played the race card did it? Did you even bother to read the statements he made? More than likely not. The man was a disgrace to the military and should have been thrown into prison for his actions.



posted on May, 24 2014 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: Sunwolf

Nutcase?You mean like Pelosi and Debbie Wasserman and Hillary?That kind of nutcase?


yea, just like them. He is the right wing equivalent. I trust him about as much as i trust Michelle Bachman.



posted on May, 24 2014 @ 10:24 PM
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a reply to: ausername

Yes. Truth is always subjective in politics.

When you follow the black letter of the law, it isn't. It is required for a properly functioning democracy.

Read Blacks Law Dictionary, paragraph one to understand the purpose of law.



posted on May, 24 2014 @ 10:39 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance

originally posted by: jimmyx
geez....it's allen west for christs sakes....look him up...here's some of his bats**t statements....thinkprogress.org...


I never knew much about West but if that is the worst that the heavily biased "think progress" can come up with, then he does not seem bats**t to me.

I will reserve judgement until more facts come to light before judging him solely on his party affiliation.


His party has nothing to do with it the guy is a nutcase. No one should be judged because of party affiliation you judge them by their statements and this guy's statements does show he has lost touch with reality.


Interesting, that is generally what liberals say about any black people who are not aligned with liberal progressive agendas.

Are you sure you're not judging the book by its cover here?

The real test in whether what he says here has any validity to it will come only with substantive proof. You are dismissing his statements prematurely.

If you were a conservative, and were saying things like this about a black liberal, you'd be called a racist.


Didn't take long before somebody played the race card did it? Did you even bother to read the statements he made? More than likely not. The man was a disgrace to the military and should have been thrown into prison for his actions.
Here. Before you make a fool of yourself calling him a disgrace, maybe you should know what he did. You call this disgraceful? In a war zone where the enemy doesn't wear a uniform? What war were you in that makes you a veteran? You would do less to keep your men safe? Were you a leader of men or a grunt?


Iraq interrogation incident[edit]
While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a plot to ambush his unit. The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, an Iraqi police officer. West had his men detain Hamoodi.[16] Soldiers testified that in the process of detaining Hamoodi, he appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[16] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 2/20th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[17] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[16] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[16] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[16] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[16]

West was charged with violating Articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[17] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[16] Lieutenant Colonel West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."[17] At his hearing, West said that there were no ambushes against American forces in Taji until he was relieved of his leadership post a month later.[17] After West's retirement he received more than 2,000 letters and e-mails offering him moral support.[16] A letter supporting West was signed by 95 members of Congress and sent to the Secretary of the Army.[16]



posted on May, 25 2014 @ 12:54 AM
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a reply to: nighthawk1954

Weren't Syria and Libya both staging points for the CIA drug running operation? The operation where they shipped from the Golden Triangle over to the mid-east and North Africa when it got too "hot" going across the Pacific? Maybe it's more than guns, it's guns and party favors?

Cheers - Dave



posted on May, 25 2014 @ 03:50 AM
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originally posted by: nighthawk1954

...it’s impossible to verify the claims at this time.


If he has a fatal accident then it's true.



edit on 25-5-2014 by McGinty because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 25 2014 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: jimmyx

I agree with everything Allen West says in your link except for #11 and #13.



posted on May, 25 2014 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: buster2010 So he is a nut case..........that means he is not the nut. One thing I will say, I believe he is a little late to the game. Gun running has been on the suspicion table for some time.



edit on 25-5-2014 by Tarzan the apeman. because: Must be filled out.



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