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originally posted by: macman
Oh, you did see that crazy POS stabbed more people than shot right???
originally posted by: MOMof3
Before the 1980's and Ronald Reagan, families had the option to put a family member in institutions who were violent or suicidal. Then the Great Defunding started and he turned them out on the street. Then the NRA gave them guns.
Another failed conservative policy from a nut case himself.
The blaming of Ronald Reagan for the destruction the mental heath system is typical progressive revisionists history. By the late 1960s, the idea that the mentally ill were not so different from the rest of us, or perhaps were even a little bit more sane, became trendy. Reformers dreamed of taking the mentally ill out of the large institutions and housing them in smaller, community-based residences where they could live more productive and fulfilling lives. Simultaneously, the ACLU was pushing a mental health patients right agenda that resulted in O’Connor v. Donaldson (see below) In 1967, Gov. Ronald Reagan signed the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act (LPS), which went into effect in 1969 and quickly became a national model. Among other things, it prohibited forced medication or extended hospital stays without a judicial hearing. The Governor signed a bill inspired by those who clamored for the "civil rights" of the mentally ill to be on the street and who claimed they'd be better off with community counseling.
So no, Reagan, didn't close mental hospitals or put anyone on the street. Progressive views on mental health, a misguided ACLU, and politicians who "know better" did it. Then finally (the last year Reagan was governor), O’Connor v. Donaldson, 422 U.S. 563 (1975), the Supreme Court found a constitutional right to liberty for mental health patients: "There is...no constitutional basis for confining such persons involuntarily if they are dangerous to no one." With this constitutional recognition, the practice of mental health law became a process of limiting and defining the power of the state to detain and treat. The result was a codification of mental health rights that have done away with non-voluntary commitment except in extreme cases.
Better education would be a good start, but then again, some people just don't want to go to school.
He clearly says 'having to experience this place on my own'
He was a 'nice guy'
Im not even sorry for the victims. I haven't even seen them. I'm not condoning it, but no one remembers or care for victims.
originally posted by: sparky31
again we,r talking about a mass shooting in america and again all i,m hearing is the right to bear arms,don,t you see that right is causing so many lifes?Britains not great but show me a story every couple of months about a mass shooting,it just doesn,t happen.your lucky if you hear about more than one person shot in same group in years,never mind every other month.
america the land of opportunity?as long as you can dodge bullets then it may be.
The Cumbria shootings was a killing spree that occurred on 2 June 2010 when a lone gunman, Derrick Bird, killed 12 people and injured 11 others before killing himself in Cumbria, England. Along with the 1987 Hungerford massacre, 1989 Monkseaton shootings and the 1996 Dunblane massacre, it is one of the worst criminal acts involving firearms in British history.