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originally posted by: smithjustinb
a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
famguardian.org...
Read if you dare.
originally posted by: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Perhaps because their "facts", while often exaggerated or inflated, tend to, more often than not, have some basis in objective reality.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Semicollegiate
How many of the nays were from Southern Democrats? Hardly a progressive bunch even into the Reagan years ("Reagan Democrats").
The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)
The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)
a reply to: smithjustinb
I hate when people tell me I'm limiting myself by choosing a political party. They think I am a zombie who doesn't think for myself. Usually, they call themselves "independent". But that's not me. I am a conservative because I arrived at my beliefs and then found out that a label existed which described them exactly as they are. No one is telling me how to think. I think for myself, and my thoughts just so happen to align with the conservative values. Check out my avatar. That's me. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...
Obamacare. (takes away freedom to choose to get health coverage).
Gun control. (if they had accomplished it would have taken away our ability to enforce our constitutional rights) - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...
Why would that be interesting?
originally posted by: Xtrozero
My top 10 views..... So my question would be: What part of my views make me run, not walk away from the liberal party.
1. I believe everyone should pull their own weight and most of their life's happiness and achievements rest in their own two hands unless they have physical/mental limitations.
2. I believe benefits outside of earned ones...military retirements, SS, Medicaid etc should be time limited.
3. I believe people have the freedom/right to fail and live a very crappy life.
3. I believe in a small Federal Government foot print and a larger State Government foot print...republic kind of thing...
4. I believe everyone should pay their fair share in taxes, and taxes should not be a burden or hindrance to achievement...
5. I believe that when seconds count the police are minutes away...
6. I believe that when charity stops at the private level, and the Government takes over with subsistence, people stop being individuals with names, a life, a personality, and become lost as numbers and statistics only.
7. I believe that abortions should be the last choice and not a choice of convenience.
8. I hate ALL lifetime politicians, and ones that basically have done nothing else in their life but school and politics.
9. I believe that not all jobs should be a single income living wage, nor should we as Americans be able to fully support ourselves singularly by default with no other requirements needed, such as skill, education, experience, talent etc.
10. I believe we are becoming a nanny state that is slowly turning everyone into apathetic underachieving slugs...
originally posted by: smithjustinb
originally posted by: Xtrozero
My top 10 views..... So my question would be: What part of my views make me run, not walk away from the liberal party.
1. I believe everyone should pull their own weight and most of their life's happiness and achievements rest in their own two hands unless they have physical/mental limitations.
2. I believe benefits outside of earned ones...military retirements, SS, Medicaid etc should be time limited.
3. I believe people have the freedom/right to fail and live a very crappy life.
3. I believe in a small Federal Government foot print and a larger State Government foot print...republic kind of thing...
4. I believe everyone should pay their fair share in taxes, and taxes should not be a burden or hindrance to achievement...
5. I believe that when seconds count the police are minutes away...
6. I believe that when charity stops at the private level, and the Government takes over with subsistence, people stop being individuals with names, a life, a personality, and become lost as numbers and statistics only.
7. I believe that abortions should be the last choice and not a choice of convenience.
8. I hate ALL lifetime politicians, and ones that basically have done nothing else in their life but school and politics.
9. I believe that not all jobs should be a single income living wage, nor should we as Americans be able to fully support ourselves singularly by default with no other requirements needed, such as skill, education, experience, talent etc.
10. I believe we are becoming a nanny state that is slowly turning everyone into apathetic underachieving slugs...
Thank you xtrozero. This is why I am a conservative.
In this thread it seems like either A) the liberals here think all these things are of liberal ideology, or B) Much of these things don't apply to conservative ideology.
Thus, my thread is made meaningless by the misinformed. We are informed. Liberalism= big government. That's why Ill vote against them. I have knowledge of the one thing that matters to me. That is, "Who represents big government?" Liberals. Ill vote against them. IM GOING TO VOTE.
originally posted by: smithjustinb
So do the statements from that link. Just because the links weren't provided doesn't make the statements not true.
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: smithjustinb
Good topic here and good replies by you
@The "Libs"....
So far I've spotted no less than 6 truth "mis-fires" and at least a dozen deflections as usual.
I won't correct them (some already have been) because it's too far off topic. But good try anyway.
The Liberals have exposed themselves again *Thank You*
Like fish out of the frying pan and into the fire
*** ScoreCard ***
Liberals -7
Conservatives +5
I have knowledge of the one thing that matters to me. That is, "Who represents big government?" Liberals. Ill vote against them. IM GOING TO VOTE.