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Restaurant with 'No Weapons, No Concealed Firearms' Sign Robbed at Gunpoint

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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: macman

Don't assume that I'm against guns. I'm not. I strongly support the 2nd amendment. FAIL!




posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

I did not ask if you supported the 2nd.

I asked a direct and detailed question.

Care to try again?



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: macman

Under my plan, there'd be no signs like that. Each and every citizen would be required by law to own a handgun.



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: ScientiaFortisDefendit

I'm a gun owner, not a gun victim. I would not give that business the time of day nor any of my money. Plenty of other places I can eat



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: masqua
There's only one recourse.

Train everyone above the age of 5yo ( from kindergarden on) to the use of handguns and legislate every American citizen above the age of 14 to 'open carry' a firearm.

8 years of training should suffice to separate the law abiding wheat from the criminal chaff.




And blood fills the streets, the stench of decay fills the air, and only your neighbour is to judge whether you live or die, based on their interpretation of your actions, and your ability to charm them.

Don't tell me it wouldn't happen that way. If everyone had a gun, everyone would be judge, jury and executioner. Wild West part 2, only with the hindsight to know better but the arrogance to ignore it.

"We must stop gun crime... by giving EVERYONE over the age of 5 a gun!"

Really, if people heard themselves from the mouths of another, they'd smirk, slap, and stare...

In a world full of arsonists, if the only way to save your house is to threaten to burn everyone else's down, I don't want to live in it.



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: masqua

That law isn't required.

If the Govt did what it was designed to do, and the 2nd was not attacked, there would be no need for such laws.

Besides, if someone doesn't want to own or carry a firearm, it is there right to do so.

edit on 22-5-2014 by macman because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
If you saw a store with an Guns welcome sign, would you assume someone in that store, might have a weapon?


Maybe. But I wouldn't know WHO had guns... And I wouldn't shop there. Doing research on this story, I saw many people say how uncomfortable they were when walking into a restaurant to see people with guns.



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: macman

I would not put that sign in front of my house. What does that prove?



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: ScientiaFortisDefendit

That's one hour before closing time. And it's also Durham, NC. Durham is a high crime city, per capita.

I'm not sure that sign would have necessarily deterred them from actually robbing the place. I'd also be willing to bet they had some inside information about when and how to actually hit the place.

It's funny and interesting that they got robbed with that sign up. The restaurant has been open for several months now. How long they've had the "guns-free zone" signs I have no idea.



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: macman

I would not put that sign in front of my house.


And why not?



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: macman

Yeah, OK... but, there sure wouldn't be any 'gun free' restaurants (or homes).

You scared of a population completely armed?



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:58 PM
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originally posted by: masqua
a reply to: macman

Yeah, OK... but, there sure wouldn't be any 'gun free' restaurants (or homes).

You scared of a population completely armed?




That would remove individual rights.

I have the right to own and carry a firearm.

Others have the right not to own and/or carry a firearm.

No one has the right to tell me or others differently.



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: tothetenthpower
Isn't the problem that criminals can get guns illegally in the first place?

That's a problem. But advertising that you are defenseless when all those criminals out there have guns to rob you with ... well that's not exactly smart. Darwin Award time for the establishments that advertise that they are push overs.



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: macman

Individual rights, huh?

There's laws that tell you to have a drivers licence and insurance if you drive a car.

There's laws that you have to be registered upon birth and have a birth certificate.

So... you saying that it's OK for everyone to have to carry those items, but 'freedom' means you shouldn't have a sidearm issued at age 14?

OK



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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: ScientiaFortisDefendit

We always said that gun laws do nothing where criminals are concerned

All it does is make it harder for law-biding citizens to protect themselves in public places


Wonder if they did that just because of the sign....to show what they can do regardless of laws


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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: network dude
If you saw a store with an Guns welcome sign, would you assume someone in that store, might have a weapon?


Maybe. But I wouldn't know WHO had guns... And I wouldn't shop there. Doing research on this story, I saw many people say how uncomfortable they were when walking into a restaurant to see people with guns.


LOL, that's the idea. If you don't know who has one, and who doesn't, it's best to assume they all do and act accordingly.

Not many doughnut stores get robbed. Why is that?



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: ScientiaFortisDefendit

Wait! Hold on one second here! Are you telling me that, instead of keeping people safe, "Gun Free Zones" actually attract criminals? No freakin' way! Don't the criminals know that this is a "Gun Free Zone?" They are definitely breaking store/restaurant policy by bringing those pistols into the restaurant and they definitely made the customers "uneasy."

So, as anyone with half a brain would realize, a criminal or anyone bent on harming another, is attracted to "soft" targets vice hard targets. Hmmm, just seems to make sense. Thanks for posting!



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 03:08 PM
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They entered and left through the back door. And I was wrong, apparently on Sunday they do close at 9:00pm. I'm not sure a law-abiding CCW permit having patron could have saved them.

1. Closing - prob. no patrons in the front
2. Entered/exited through back door
3. Employees prob. aren't allowed to have/bring guns to work anyway

While I do see the irony, I don't see the "Gun-free zone" sign as a major invitation. This was just a textbook execution of an after-hours restaurant robbery.
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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 03:10 PM
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a reply to: WCmutant

Yeah, the patrons didn't even know what was happening, as they were escorted outside.



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 03:21 PM
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originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: ScientiaFortisDefendit

So are we supposed to assume that if they didn't have that sign they wouldn't have been robbed?

Well, the robbers do not have to worry about me intervening.
If I see one of these stickers or signs on a business, I simply will not give them my business, nor would any other law abiding, freedom loving American.
It is illegal to carry past one of these signs even if you have a CCW (there are few exclusions).
So I wouldn't say it was inevitable, just a bit more likely.
Criminals prefer soft targets, this is just historic fact.



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