a reply to: charles1952
Actually almost all of my post deals with the MJ laws and the murders those antiquated and misrepresented laws catalysed and how not only murders but
ALL MJ related crimes feed a Prison Business that has made some Americans Billionaires on the backs of Generations of American youth.
Dont you understand yet that this is not a Social movement,this is the removal of suppression,and that means there is a clear and present trail of
evidence which will soon be made available to us all,the SUPPRESSORS will have nowhere to hide.
Your question is how "I can be so certain"?
Black Market money always brings violence and death,what are you insinuating here that we need to prove things here as if we were in a court of law
and you were a defense attorny?Forget it that is how we got into this mess.
It is obvious that Murders will be reduced when the Black Market dynamic is resolved via legalisation/
it is obvious that the history of MJ has been suppressed and that it has been used a a tool to manipulate America and other Countrys.
You will not get statistics from me and nor will you get you proverbial day in court as you are looking for,I will not play by the rules of evidence
and statistics you want to deal in.
You will not drag me into that deep water with you.
Soon legalisation and decriminalisation will spread to every state to some degree,and when that happens History will begin to REWRITE the book on MJ
and believe me we WILL out the people who suppressed it in the first place,people have been working on that very issue for decades and are now making
It is the same with the Prison Business which is inextricablly linked to the MJ outlaws created on purpose by intentionally misdirected laws.
It is the same with the Tesla suppression,ha ha ha did anyone think this would not be uncovered and history would not set it straight?All we need are
names to attatch to the crimes against Humanity.
Yes when you intentionally criminalise a societally accepted thing you INTENTIONALLY create an unbalanced dynamic you can use to screw the people,you
screw the entire system because obviously if something is societally accepted then the VOTE SHOULD MAKE IT LEGAL,by the very principals that it was
societally accepted and NOT made legal we can see the conspiracy,and when we look deeper we can find a great deal of data which shows that
Industrialists were concerned with the imacts Hemp Farming were having and they decided to suppress it,to allow other more managable Industrys to
oveertake the Hemp industry,it was one small step in the dance these organised Industrialist terrorists have been Waging against all of Humanity for
Centuries.If we look further we find medical evidence that MJ is curative in many ways and that this data WAS AVAILABLE MANY DECADES AGO AND WAS
SUPPRESSED.Using money and influence to abbrogate Humanitys progress by hamstringing us all so you can make TRILLIONS OFF OF LABOR INTENSIVE METHODS
is a Crime against Humanity.Suppressing MJ to support Industrialists and then suppressing to support the Big Pharma companies and then suppressing and
criminalising to support a prison Business is called FLIPPING YOUR ASSETS,and it is also called Crimes against Humanity.
You may do the legwork on the statistics if you like I do not need to I live in this century.This is not a court of law and the traditional laws of
evidence do not apply here.
What I am tieing in here is that the MJ issue is much bigger than it appears on the surface.It is directly tied to suppression of MAJOR Humanitarian
Knowledge from Humanity for profits.
The money earned through the suppression,criminalisation and manpulation of the MJ issue is all part and parcel of the money used to suppress tesla
and others in many many ways we are now just learning to identify.
We used to think to small,but the internet has allowed everyone to have more of a shall we say Global perspective and now we can easily backtrack and
revese extrapolate the dynamics used to generate and move massive sums of money and volumes if influence and fiscal impacts.
Understandablly the more traditionally grounded your mind the more difficult it will be for you to keep up with Societal change and evolution,this is
likely why so many people cling to rules of evidence we see in courtrooms here in cyber-space,those rules do not apply here,many of those rules are
hinderances to Humanitarian progress as we all now know,not ALL and not the MAJORITY of laws,we all know the majority are progressive but we arent so
stupid as our predecessors so as to blindly have faith in the face of overwhelming volumes of proof we get dailiy from outside the chains of
traditional Mainstram Media who happen to ALSO be owned by these same groups of Money Mongers,proof that shows us there are MANY law like the MJ
laws,ones designed not to serve the PEOPLE but to serve the money mongers who put those laws in place the exact same ways the MJ laws were put in
place and with an identical self-serving agenda totally seperate from Humanitys agenda of progression improvement and survival.
By the way PROOF by your definitions requires laws and lawyers hence MONEY,this only works if you are in a courtroom.
We are in The Peoples Court now in Cyber-space and it is YOU who needs to follow the protocal more closely.
We all know we need to research things ourselves online and people know when they read my post they will need to dig for themselves,we EXPECT people
to dig for data,we WANT them to do that so they learn more.
You simply want some statistics lined up like ducks so you can waste our time shooting them down for kicks.
Here is a statistic for you,MJ is becoming legal in more areas by the day,the murder and crime rates are dropping in EVERY AREA,it doesnt take a
Rocket scientist or your definition of PROOF traditional as it very well may be to see the obvious.Maybe you would care to explain how a Country
could societally accept MJ but not have it be legal?If your Government works or is HONEST then this COULD NOT HAPPEN,in your political system changes
do not happen via societal acceptance which has to battle its own government for decades and decades to overturn misplaced laws these were not
ANTIQUUITATED LAWS they were intentionally designed via suppression.In your country these societal needs are projected via vote BEFORE laws are
made.So once again HOW did your country end up the way it is right now?You see it took to long to change the MJ laws for everything to be on the up
The real question is HOW DID THE MJ legeslation begin and who supported it and WHAT EVOLUTIONARY PATH did EVERY STEP of that process follow the
natural one or a CONTRIVED ONE.
You miss the point here,yes murder rates and all of society will be positively effected by legalising MJ,but this is NOT ENOUGH,we need to know who by
and how and why these laws were put in and supported initially and also for the DURATION of their existance,because PEOPLE are responsible for
intentionally making MJ illegal to support their own agendas,AGAINST socieatal needs,atrificial propoganda and mis-information were fed to the public
and we can now see how when and where,and all we need to do is add the WHO and we have one more step in the process of Humanitarian Justice
Legalisation is already over,State by State participaction is a formality,legalisation is just the tip of the ice-burg.
What we need now is an honest teenager with a computer who will NOT ask for "proof" but who will go get it.,one who will use cyber-skills to go wayyy
back in time to the very 1st MJ laws and follow the trail of data suppression and manipulation all the way up to to today.Thats the REAL PROOF we all
need.And dont worry it is on its way.The records cannot be erased and it is all a matter of perspective and of knowing where to look and whose names
to look for.
When you do ANYTHING unnatural or against the natural grain you leave a huge and very obvious dynamic trail which CANNOT be erased.If MJ data was
suppressed many years ago intentionally and laws were subversively put in place while the public was played a Pipers song via media using fiscal
influences and power to make the masses believe MJ was bad, we will be able to clearly illustrate this.
No one thought they would ever be caught for the crimes against Humanity they committed for money,no one could have IMAGINED the Internet and its
I can guarantee the men behind the MJ conspiracy never planned on being caught just as surely as I can guarantee you that they are already busted and
being documented and outed.
Just because something saw made into a law doesnt mean the process was clean and just,as we all know graft exists on all levels and can be tracked by
as with everything following the money.
You can blame it on the Internet or you can blame it on the real criminals,the suppressionists,but my friend no ones lawyer is getting them out of
this one,the record does and will speak for itself,stick around long enough and you will see the JFK Coup de tat participants be caught in this Global
web,Big Pharma,Abbrogating Americas Democratic process,Tesla suppression the list goes on and on and on and all roads lead to Rome so to speak,the
moeny is the tie that binds and there is no way out once you are in without leaving a trail to follow. In todays cyberworld there is simply no place
A very well schooled lawyer with enough Firm support might tell you that there is a case for proving that every MJ connected murder may be connected
via causality to the original conspiracy and those historiclly and presently connected to it and wouldnt this open up a new can of worms huh?
You are assuming the MJ laws and their history are on the up and up and I am not assuming this,I am claiming the opposite.
I am assuming the murder rates and crime rates will go down with MJ legalisation,you are claiming the opposite until you have proof as you define
You are assuming everyone will just accept that the MJ laws WERE in fact brought in legally and with no external and conspiratorial influences,and
never question their inception,maybe you think everyone will not care,about the millions AND millions of people who have already been killed and been
hurt , the medical Patients are the ones who were hurt the most and they are the ones who have done the legwork and research on how and why MJ was
suppressed,because it hit them the hardest.You are barking up the wrong tree tossing the weak kneed "prove it to me until I am happy" line my way.I
personally know several people who use MJ medicinally and they ALL know its true history,they researched it very thoroughly before using it
curatively.I know the people and have seen the results,and now I simply wait to see the people responsible for this Crime Against Humanity this
Suppression to be outed named and branded for history as the Humanitarian Terrorists that they are.You may continue to wait for the "proof" you need
The first day prohibition over MJ was actioned in Colorado A LIFE WAS SAVED AND A MURDER PREVENTED,and for every day after more and more lives will be
saved from death and ruin.
One day you might not be to happy when you read about nancy reagan and the Just say No propoganda aimed at MJ.
No one is stupid,we just couldnt make change,we all knew dacades ago that MJ was intentionally parsed into the "DRUG" world and that people were
encourged or really FORCED to call MJ as bad as Heroin and Meth and god knows what chemicals they are making today.You see the greedy conspirators
were TO GREEDY,they went overboard on their sales-job.
Today the educated amongst us actually pity anyone who has the olde school ignorant perspective and even attempts to put MJ and DRUGS together in the
same sentence.That old mentality is the MINORITY today,the lies and suppression is the MINORITY today,hard to grasp if you were raised olde school
isnt it,that YOU WERE LIED TO and have been giving this suppression your 100% ,maybe its time many people just learning the truth focus some
frustration on the people who misled them for their entire lives.Judging by the millions and millions of Americans of every creed and race who have
been arrested or affected by MJ legeslation and punishments there cannot be may familys who do not have at least one member in this group somewhere
since MJ laws were made up,and this means EVERYONE SHOULD BE ANGRY that the people they love were treated like pawns and had their lives destroyed so
JUST a FEW privilaged Americans could get richer,if you arent mad yet you will be soon when the full truth is made available to you.
The fist day a dollar bill hit a cash register to pay for a gram of MJ a life was saved,accept it or not it is after all your perspective.Just
temember we all stand for something and need to do everything we can to make sure we are informed before you take a stance and in todays world that
does not mean listening to the evening news and your preacher,it means surfing the net and getting as much of the truth as you can handle.Dont expect
someone else to do the work for you,you need to change yourself by educating yourself,i could easily spend a few days putting together statistics,but
as I said your votes have been doing that for decades and all it has lead to is murders and incarceration and the subversion of entire generations of
American pride confidence and self-worth and productivity,what kind of idiots would criminalise such a huge number of their own youthfull citizens and
expect their country to function normally.I would tie the votes into the MJ conspiracy but I dont think i can give you the type of "proof" you need,I
will let America give you that proof as she is doing right now and as she will continue to do
At least everyone is on board with the due processes we are seeing actioned upon now.
I think we will soon see a LOT of people educated soon,this is not an OPINION issue,there is and has always been scientific data supporting the
non-criminal control of MJ.MJ was never a drug,there was never a debate to be had or an opinion to be formed until suppression was actioned and the
natural evolution of MJs interaction with Humanity was interfered with.
You cannot CHEAT and get something criminalised and think you will never be caught red handed.That just isnt realistic,it is asunrealistic as
claiming we need to wait for statistical validation that the murder rate will drop when a money generating criminal substance is legalised and the
money is taken off of the black market,actually to be Frank there is something odd about that logic in todays world unless you are a lawyer.And really
with computers today what a bad time to be a lawyer their days are surely very numbered now,ask any Doctor how their job security is these days.Google
and an online doctor do the trick now,as I am sure Google and a good law data base could also do.
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