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If WW3 erupted would you help the war effort?

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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 01:42 AM
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I was thinking

If WW3 erupted today between Russia and the US or our allies, I think I would enlist tomorrow. I am not a fan of the NWO or the slave wage system we got going here but we do have plenty of other things going for us. I dont really think any of that would matter anyways. It would be about survival. I would want the west to survive even if its evils did as well. Everyone I love is here.

I dont want to see the Russian, Chinese, or any other people suffer. I do want to see their governments fall though if it comes down to a them VS us situation.

I dont know. Just a thought. I would enlist and try to serve my country and by that I mean my people. I dont exactly like our government either.

I guess I would kill people if it meant my people would survive. I would try to be proficient at it and do my job well. Not for a pat on the head or for some song of glory. I would think to all my people the other guy couldnt kill from his grave.

Its a dark train of thought I know. I still think it though. God forgive me. I would fight in their world war and try to win by any means.

You?


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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 01:48 AM
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You REALLY think there is a difference between "their" system and ours?

Hello? How well do "communism" (socialism) and super-rich "investors" and billionaires in China, Russia go together?

Realize this is all BS, there is no difference between their systems and ours and thus not even a legitimate reason to see them as enemies.

I am still baffled that the fairy-tale of the difference between the "Western" system and the "communists in China and Russia" is held up..while in reality (at least for me)..I simply cannot see any major difference in ideologies. BOTH, east and west are driven by greed and a few elites are holding the strings. Like here, so over there.

Should such a war ever break out..it will be a war where some people fight because of an illusion..."OMGZ! The communists are coming and taking over etc.."...while in reality only fighting a war for the gain of power/money for a few super-rich...NOT for an alleged difference in ideology as we're told.
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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 01:48 AM
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Short answer - no.

Long answer - expletive no.

Why would I enlist to go fight a war when I don't believe in what caused it in the first place. Especially seeing as our government has done a lot of the instigating. I'm not one to support terrorism.



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 01:50 AM
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a reply to: tadaman
Interesting thought/s and question/s....
I don't think my government would take me ---- Too old - Health conditions.
If it was "us or them"...I would hope it's "us".
As you - I am totally disgusted at much of what I see in the movement/s and direction/s of the federal government - but, would rather have the opportunity to address those grievances freely, rather than some group/nation that I know would care very little for any & all of those I love and care for...enforcing change (which would likely include the possibility of 'death').
On the other hand... Aside from nuclear annihilation - I can certainly envision attempting a Red Dawn resistance.



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 01:51 AM
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a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

Yeah their modus operandi is similar but power is not shared. I dont think that would matter at that point anyways. My peoples survival would be on my mind.

I know that I wouldnt be fighting a "good war" (no such thing IMO), but if war did break out I would fight the good fight for my family and my people. It would be for their survival and prosperity- That is what would make me fight "a good fight". I wouldnt hate my enemy, but I would stop him and his weapons from hurting my people with our weapons with all my heart and soul.

Our leaders would be fighting for control and supremacy. I would be fighting so less of my people die while they negotiate who gets what and how much.


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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 01:51 AM
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I would fight for America if we were ever invaded. Then, the agenda of our involvement in war would be clear and I would be fighting for a cause I know would be honorable to me.

For me, the greater war in America right now is securing our freedom against our own oppressive government. I am more concerned with getting America back to being America than I am with what's going on over seas. At the rate our government is going, it will be at their hands that we are reduced to communism and socialism.
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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 01:56 AM
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From the point of view of one who went through duck and cover drills...
In a world war you would have neither the opportunity or option to help either the war effort or yourself.

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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 01:59 AM
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a reply to: NoRulesAllowed
It seems that you are presuming it would be a 'peaceful' takeover...where - after Russia/China 'take over' the U.S.A., they will simply impose their style of government on those here...
I do not see them wanting to mix & mingle with us...
I see them wanting what we have (resources, space, lands) and very few of the/our people.
Such a scenario would likewise, probably include 'vendetta/grudge' as can be seen regularly from people from other lands & cultures on these boards (and others).
If it's my family...or theirs...I WILL FIGHT/DIE for my family (but I WILL NOT FIGHT/DIE for this government).



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:02 AM
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a reply to: Phage

I dont agree.

You can kill the soldiers on the other side. You can build weapons for your people so as to kill the soldiers on the other side. You can help the war effort in a myriad of ways besides the obvious.

I dont see what duck and cover drills really have to do with any of that. Are you referring to Nuclear annihilation? What if non nuclear weapons or no large KT warheads were used out of fear for self preservation knowing the radiation would eventually reach your side by way of global wind currents?

If you werent getting nuked, LOL would you help?


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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:04 AM
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I would if i had to to survive.

But, i have plans to avoid being in a big military. If anything, im going to join a militia, and build up members (unless the govs kill us all)

When its martial law, and everyone has their rights stripped (i assume this will be how it will be in WWIII) then we will have to band together, and more people would do it then, even those who won't know.

So yes, if i had to to fulfill my (non-violent) plans in the future. I would have no problem shooting a person invading my country, and at that point i wouldn't be shooting them for the government, id be shooting them to protect the people and for myself.



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:06 AM
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Are you referring to Nuclear annihilation?
Annihilation...maybe. Destruction...absolutely.



What if non nuclear weapons were used out of fear for self preservation knowing the radiation would eventually reach your side by global wind currents?
There is no other option in a world war. In this world the only way to "win" such a war is by eliminating the ability of the adversary(ies) to wage war. There is only one way to do that.
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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:10 AM
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There is no other option in a world war. In this world the only way to "win" such a war is by eliminating the ability of the adversary(ies) to wage war. There is only one way to do that.

would you do that?

You really dont have to answer. I dont want to seem like I am pushing you into answering. I was just entertaining a thought I have been having as of late.

I would do any and all things required to win. I would even embrace the worst part of human nature if it meant we would win and they would lose. If I couldnt live with myself afterwards then so be it. At least my family and my people would be better off for it and I could die knowing that much. Thats how I see it anyways.


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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:12 AM
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would you do that?
Would I do what?


I would do any and all things required to win.
There is no winning a world war...anymore.


At least my people would be better off for it and I could die knowing that much.
Define "better off."
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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:14 AM
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You can kill the soldiers on the other side. You can build weapons for your people to kill the soldiers on the other side.

Do you not hear yourself, you sound like an insane psychopath quite frankly. The "people on the other side" are just human being like you, normal every day people who you've never met and if you got to know them you'd probably like them. If soldiers like you weren't so keen to "enlist tomorrow" and you refused to do the bidding of our lunatic leaders, then there wouldn't need to be a war in the first place. WW3 wouldn't even happen if we refused to kill each other en mass like a bunch of retards.
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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:19 AM
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Would I do what?

I was responding to this



There is no other option in a world war. In this world the only way to "win" such a war is by eliminating the ability of the adversary(ies) to wage war. There is only one way to do that.


Would you do what you thought would help your side win the war? Use nukes, use other weapons, ect. What ever it is that you were referring to in that post (which you didnt outright say, which is fine)




There is no winning a world war...anymore.

-There is always a way to win a war. relatively speaking there would be great loss either way and in that light you are right we would all be losers for it...BUT there would still be a victor and a loser. Who ever could continue to wage war would win and who ever could not would lose.




Define "better off."

-"Better off" means not subjected to the mercy of a victor. Alive. With a future beyond a mention in a history book as a statistic.


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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:21 AM
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originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

Yeah their modus operandi is similar but power is not shared. I dont think that would matter at that point anyways. My peoples survival would be on my mind.

I know that I wouldnt be fighting a "good war" (no such thing IMO), but if war did break out I would fight the good fight for my family and my people. It would be for their survival and prosperity- That is what would make me fight "a good fight". I wouldnt hate my enemy, but I would stop him and his weapons from hurting my people with our weapons with all my heart and soul.

Our leaders would be fighting for control and supremacy. I would be fighting so less of my people die while they negotiate who gets what and how much.



Your people survival? Let's get one thing straight 'We are all Human' we are all your people and you are ours and theirs! That is what is wrong with this world, we separate ourselves into tribes when we should be embracing each other!

Now, that aside! WW3 is nuclear Armageddon, end of the world! few would survive (albeit the elite with their underground bases) and in the end those that do survive will probably wish they had died! That is why is is a silly idea and a stupid war!

People live your life and stop worrying about silly imaginative situations because you do not need to live in fear! Love to live, enjoy your lives and if you live in fear, you are beaten down already!



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:21 AM
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Hell no .. not my concern if the primitives want to slaughter each other over nothing let them ..



posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:23 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

I would like to think as much. Reality is that while good intentions and high ideals are nice, in the scenario I am describing the other side would have plenty of people to kill our side and establish their supremacy. We can rewrite history but not human nature.

If I seem like a psycho then forgive me. Every person who considered what he would do to preserve his family and his people in wartime must have been a psycho, since they killed other human beings trying to do the same to them for the same reasons.

We may all lament it after wars, but I would like for my people and myself to do that lamenting over a grave and not in one. Especially during a war. You can argue with the enemy for peace and see if that works ( I am sure its been tried before, its not that an original of an idea), I would try to kill him for peace.

One has been proven to work more than the other...or at all really....


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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:24 AM
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Would you do what you thought would help your side win the war? Use nukes, use other weapons, ect. What ever it is that you were referring to in that post (which you didnt outright say, which is fine)
Not my choice.


Who ever could continue to wage war would win and who ever could not would lose.
In a world war there is only one way to remove the ability of one's opponent(s) to wage war.


With a future beyond a mention in a history book as a statistic.
In this world, a world war holds a future for no one.


Let me guess...you just watched Red Dawn.



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posted on May, 22 2014 @ 02:25 AM
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Assuming ww3 didn't go nuclear which is pretty hard to imagine, I presume they would enact a draft so the choice comes down to would you like to be imprisoned/killed by your own government or rather risk your life trying to kill other unfortunate people forced into the same situation by their own government.

I honestly don't know which option I would choose, I'd probably flee to any neutral country that would have me if I could though.



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