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originally posted by: JohnPhoenix
originally posted by: Nyiah
No, I think that would take a good deal of viewpoints away from any given discussion. Monotonous conversation is a bore.
I do, however, think conversations would be a whole lot better without the willy-nilly use of the term "shill" to denote someone they don't like or disagree with. And stooping to calling people shills is highly frowned upon on ATS anyway.
In my mind a shill is someone with an agenda who is posting here for the express purpose to get their extreme right or left wing agenda across as well as to ( perhaps with lies) discredit those who seek truth.
This is a proper definition and it is not just silly hateful name calling, it's legitimate. I don't use the term nor do i know anyone else who uses the term to denote "someone I don't like or disagree with" - that's not a proper definition of the term. I think you may be confused.
originally posted by: rusblued9217
The idea of payed shills being on here is somewhat of a joke.
It certainly ascribes a high level of narcissism to a lot of ATS members, they consider this site so important governments would pay people to create accounts and post ridiculous threads.
originally posted by: cestrup
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Yes, we need skeptics - we do not need threads to be derailed and for cripes sake - realize that everyone can be wrong. There isn't one person on here that has all the answers and these situations are never black and white/simple. Discussion is key - and maybe sometimes it's easier to see things by not giving yourself a label like, "skeptic" or "conspiracy theorist" and looking at a thread from a mile up. For me, I can see who these people are in every thread. Unaccepting of your side and constantly either berating you for thinking a certain way or nitpicking every sentence looking for someting to sway the discussion. Of course, this is my perception which will surely differ from others...
originally posted by: Tucket
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Then they get angry and demand to know why I am even on these forums if I can't accept these crazy ideas as true with the little proof they have.
What surprises me about the skeptic is that usually they cant even be open to the slightest possibility that a crazy idea might actually exist.
....No verifiable evidence or mainstream scientific backing??? ...Then get the heck outta here.
I think its unfortunate that circumstancial evidence means nothing to them.
But lets not get skeptic and shill mixed up here. I appreciate the skeptics. Shills disgust me but they are good for a laugh as they are quite easy to spot imo.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I'd be willing to bet if I were to show you a discussion among ten different people where I tell you that ONE is a guaranteed shill (government paid disinfo agent), you wouldn't be able to pick him out.
originally posted by: neformore
ATS is a discussion board, not an agreement board. "Shill" is simply a pathetic attempt at a strawman slur that effectively means "does not agree with me".
originally posted by: FlyersFan
Authentic shills - gov't paid or politician paid posters - are rare and far between.
originally posted by: Rob48
This is the crux of it. A skeptic (not a shill) considers the evidence and decides what is most plausible.