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originally posted by: Eryiedes
Don't forget the lessons of Cointelpro.
The Feds (and most others here) are well aware that regardless of a topic, 90% of them can be "shutdown" (discredited) by 3 or 4 negative comments before a positive one can appear. The average reader will only browse the comments and skip any source material. A Nobel Prize winner could admonish your research but as long as a few negative comments start out the thread, most people will never see the facts you presented or know they were even there in the first place.
It's why many mainstream media and political websites disable their comments section on videos.
Sad but true.
originally posted by: DigitalJedi805
So I've been an ATSer for some time now - and I seem to note this recurring theme of discrediting before crediting.
Every post here was composed with the posters belief that whatever they are posting is real and valid - otherwise they wouldn't be posting it.
This being said; why is the communities immediate response to anything questionable - that the topic is moot, or the sources are invalid, or the video was CG'd?
To me, it's this sort of lack of open-mindedness that has us trapped in this society; in part.
Why can't we put ourselves in someone else's shoes? Assume, that someone's 'IIS SEES SPACE SHIP' thread IS valid; before assuming that it isn't. If you can still discredit it from That perspective, then feel free - but making sure that you're the one that discredits the video before anyone else can promote it - doesn't help any of us.
How many thousand videos uploaded to ATS? How many have been discredited? How many in the first reply? How many of those discredited films do us ATSers believe to be real?
I'd bet every time, that the OP and anyone who started with an 'open mind', finds potential in most of these examples - but anyone who clicked on a heading with any skepticism and immediately replied with doubt - doesn't.
Just an observation; and hope, that the evolving availability of information doesn't lead us to further misdirection.
We're all here because we want to know, right? Then stop pretending that you know best - you might be a 15-year JPL Engineer with degrees in 20 fields of study - but you might be wrong.