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Prison for Those Who Report Fracking Chemicals: Capitalist or Communist?

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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 09:52 AM
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Three Republican state senators introduced a bill that would slap a felony charge on individuals who disclosed confidential information about fracking chemicals. The bill, whose sponsors include a member of Republican party leadership, establishes procedures for fire chiefs and health care providers to obtain chemical information during emergencies. But as the trade publication Energywire noted Friday, individuals who leak information outside of emergency settings could be penalized with fines and several months in prison.

www.motherjones.com...

The article about US North Carolina has one piece of misleading information which is that medical emergency workers who visit a fracking site would be subject to the law. This does not seem to be at all true according to the text of the law which makes exceptions for both fire and health emergency workers. See
www.ncleg.net...
The bill does make it a class 1 felony in US North Carolina. Presumably this only applies to instances where there is a confidentiality contracts or trade secrets involved... though anyone who thinks that may not be the case can read the bill.

Communism is government ownership over the means of production. Certainly fully controlling the speech of a worker is equivalent to employing that worker even more so than the businesses itself. The government of North Carolina, and in specific the Republican party, definitely sees itself as the owner of these oil companies. Given that oil companies are a means of production of oil, the NC Republican party is being communist, not capitalist. Is this crony capitalism or is it actually communism?

The New Hampshire GOP would be doing the exact opposite of the NH GOP thanks in part to the 12 Free State Project members of the legislator and also the pre-existing Liberty Alliance. Its the only state worth being a Republican with possibly most of them in office not being communists.




posted on May, 21 2014 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: wayforward

It's Fascism. The government and certain preferential corporations are inseparable.



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 10:08 AM
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Three Republican state senators introduced a bill that would slap a felony charge on individuals who disclosed confidential information about fracking chemicals.


Damn that Internet! Way to go whistle blowers!

Belying the lackey involvement of the "bill slapping senators" as well. They do shoot themselves in the foot in that regard…

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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply twatero: wayforward

Yes because we should have no idea what they are pumping into the ground right on top of and next to our ground water supplies.

This is at least cronny capitalism, bordering on communism.



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 10:17 AM
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Its neither.

Just disgusting and wrong!



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: wayforward

This is fully-realized capitalism. The ability to protect financial interests at any cost and to buy laws is the end goal of capitalism.

Mission accomplished.



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 12:57 PM
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Capitalism is a financial system, not a governmental system. I get that capitalism has been on the hot seat lately. But separating financial from governmental systems is important if we want to avoid fascism, which is what this is. The use of socioeconomic stress to control a population.

Long story short: there doesn't need to be a law. If the oil companies want to protect "propprietary information", they need to put NDA's in place. But the problem they will have is that each rig has several people working on it that, by OSHA requirement, know what they are fracking with. They all have access to "Material Safety Data Sheets" (MSDS forms) that tell them exactly what they are dealing with, and exactly what to do in case of exposure.

One thing I can tell you about roughnecks: they change jobs every 6 months. Do the morons elected to write this law not know this? It removes any pretense of protecting "intellectual property".



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 01:01 PM
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That is not communism, that is a dictator tendency.



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: wayforward

Communism is government ownership over the means of production. Certainly fully controlling the speech of a worker is equivalent to employing that worker even more so than the businesses itself. The government of North Carolina, and in specific the Republican party, definitely sees itself as the owner of these oil companies. Given that oil companies are a means of production of oil, the NC Republican party is being communist, not capitalist. Is this crony capitalism or is it actually communism?


No it isn't. Communism is equal control of the means of production by everyone involved. Communism really has nothing to do with government control over a business. I believe you may be thinking of Fascism. No I'm not Communist, just wanted to clear that up.


The New Hampshire GOP would be doing the exact opposite of the NH GOP thanks in part to the 12 Free State Project members of the legislator and also the pre-existing Liberty Alliance. Its the only state worth being a Republican with possibly most of them in office not being communists.


Republicans aren't Communists. They don't want the low level workers to have equal control of businesses with the people who currently own and run them. You should really read up on your political definitions before you speak about them.

Communism


the political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. Communism is thus a form of socialism—a higher and more advanced form, according to its advocates. Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate, but the distinction rests largely on the communists’ adherence to the revolutionary socialism of Karl Marx.

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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 01:39 PM
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"Betrayal is the breaking or violation of a presumptive contract,
trust,
or confidence that produces moral and psychological conflict within a relationship.
For instance,
Judas' 30 Pieces of Silver


Betrayal of public trust,,,

"The concept of the public trust relates back to the origins of democratic government
and its seminal idea that within the public lies the true power and future of a society;
therefore,
whatever trust the public places in its officials must be respected."







I hope some understand.



Me.



notice its still the same Eagle.




posted on May, 21 2014 @ 05:25 PM
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a reply to: Cuervo

Cuervo, so it is your belief that the USA is a purely capitalist economy at the moment?



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