posted on May, 19 2014 @ 07:38 PM
I am starting this thread out of frustration and anger, not to bash religion or religious belief, but to point out the prevailing mentality that
permeates the society that I live in with regards to the religious construct of controlling the weak minded, which is by far the majority in my
Again I will state, my beef is not with religion, if a person is faithful and sincere then they have my respect, I am not a follower of any religion
per se, but I do consider myself a spiritual person in the sense that I believe there is more to this existence than meets the eye(and our other
mortal senses). However I am not fond of dogmatic religious people, as I see it a book is a book and no more the word of God than what is written
My girlfriend and I had a baby boy nearly 10 months ago, he is the light of our lives, we love him dearly.
We decided not to baptise our son, a decision made before his birth, and even though this would be considered going against the grain in our society
it is becoming more common amongst younger people, however it is still rare for people to abandon this practice. I live in Catholic
I have always held a persons spiritual existence, or lack of one, with deep respect. I believe it is a fundamental human right to choose one’s own
path when one is old enough and mature enough to do so, and that includes choosing not to believe in anything also.
For me baptising a baby is an archaic claim made upon the soul of an individual by an organisation obsessed with amounting wealth, power and sheer
human numbers to it’s fold, done at a time in a person’s life when they are as defenceless and sensless as they ever will be. This ritual is
bolstered in modern times, theologically anyway, by the teaching that a baby’s soul is “black with sin” and must be cleansed, or that an
un-baptised baby’s soul is damned for eternity should the infant die before baptism, although recently the Catholic church has revised the latter.
Our first inkling that there might be problems started before our son was born. My GF’s mother was chatting with her one day and mentioned baptism,
my GF offhandedly said that we weren’t going to baptise our baby and her mother reacted very negatively to this. My GF’s mother is the only
‘religious’ person in her family, she attends mass regularly etc, but to be honest I view her as more of a ’superstitious’ person than a
spiritual one. We both decided to avoid the topic of baptism and hope that would be the end of it, we were wrong.
Shortly afterwards my GF’s sister called her and demanded to know why we weren’t baptising our baby. My GF’s father also began making comments
regarding our decision, as did one of her brothers and another sister(she comes from a big family).
None of these other family members are practicing Catholics. None of them attend mass etc.
This mild harassment continued, and still does. However not one of these people, who I get on with and like, has said a word to me, all comments have
been said to my GF alone.
The main argument for baptising our son which have been put to my GF is:
The child will feel left out when his classmates, cousins etc are making their ‘Holy Communion’ and ‘Confirmation’.
A valid point. However, when you consider what these rituals have become in modern times, they are nothing more than a reason for the children to
dress up and collect money from their relatives. Parents throw lavish parties for their kids. The kids tally up the amount of money they ‘made’ on
the day with pride. I can remember my ‘confirmation’, I received the meagre sum of 20 pounds whilst my classmate Sinead got over 150! It always
made me feel poor. The point is that these habits have zero to do with the actual religious ceremony, they are pure materialism plain and simple, and
quite an industry revolves around them.
I could go on here, but suffice to say that the amount of people known to me whom openly admit they don’t believe in God and couldn’t give a hoot
about the Catholic church, but who still baptise their children, and follow along with all the rest, simply because they don’t “want their kids to
stand out” is….well practically everybody I know who has kids. (these people also like to get married in the churches of the same God they don’t
believe in too).
It has also been pointed out to us that our son will be bullied and ridiculed in school. As you will see below, the parents of the kids who do the
bullying are really the ones responsible.
The message is, basically, “don’t stand out” and here we are.
Today my GF’s sister told her 3 year old son, who attended one of these ‘communion parties’ yesterday, that yes he would be having a party for
his communion and so would his other cousin, but no, our son wouldn’t be having one. This confused the little boy and he asked my GF why? When my GF
related this to me this evening I felt anger welling inside of me. What her sister is doing is downright low, but I can see now that this is how it
works, this is how the system is perpetuated in our society.
Her sister is a hypocrite. The people that I know who follow in step with these traditions, whilst denouncing religion down at the pub are hypocrites.
It makes me angry that these people are too cowardly to stand up for themselves, I despise their selfish and substance-less sense of propriety. They
instil their shallow and materialistic viewpoints on their own children, they are the majority, they are the mob.
Sometimes I feel that I should recant my decision not to baptise our son, but when I contemplate how much I love him, how much I want him to be his
own person when he grows up I change my mind. I know it’s not going to easy for him sometimes, but I am going to with him every step of the way to
offer him guidance as best I can.