Thailand's army declares martial law

a reply to: Hongkongphooey

Very well written post and there was absolutely nothing I would disagree with.. Salute

a reply to: Hongkongphooey

That pretty much sums it up.




I fear the thaksin sponsored redshirts will not accept any outcome that isn't totaly pro-thaksin, and that we're in for a long term guerrilla war.

Read this morning that CAPO chief Chalerm's house, along with several PTP senators, was raided this morning by the Army, wonder what that means.

ETA: This might have been a key factor: englishnews.thaipbs.or.th...

originally posted by: 727Sky
a reply to: Hongkongphooey

Very well written post and there was absolutely nothing I would disagree with.. Salute

Thanks, seems like we were both posting similar information at the same time, yours backed up by published reports

originally posted by: METACOMET
a reply to: SLAYER69

None of this is happening in a vacuum.

So just to be clear, it is your opinion that none of this has anything to do at all with US foreign policy? Overt or otherwise?

Anybody who just does some basic reading on Thailands history can tell you that.

originally posted by: metodex
What caused the protests?
Isn't Thailand a kingdom? where's the king of thailand? Isn't your majesty supposed to keep order, isn't his word stronger than the army's? (lol no)

I got some reading to do.
But if Russia is making a move in Ukraine,and China is going to make a move in Thailand then the pattern is clear.

How does Thailand declaring Martial Law equal China making a move in Thailand? Thailand has a crazy political climate, they have been demonstrating for years basically, and a couple weeks ago the PM was found guilty of abuse of power. This has nothing to do with the Chinese.

a reply to: sputniksteve

There are 9 million Chinese in Thailand, so you cannot rule out anything

Thailand's Military Declares Martial Law

originally posted by: METACOMET
a reply to: SLAYER69


Take a look at the Thai military hardware rolled out on the streets. Soldiers with Beretta 92 sidearms and M16's. AM General Humvees with M2 Brownings on top. Blackhawk helicopters. Patton Tanks. Bradley fighting vehicles.

I wonder where they got those?

Uhhhh, gee whiz, probably from us, the USA? Considering we are allies....

a reply to: np6888

How many are there in the US? Vietnam? Malasia? Korea? There are millions of Chinese all over the place, that doesn't mean that Thailand's martial law has anything to do with "Chinese moving in" does it?

a reply to: sputniksteve

If you notice in one of the videos, one poster said the goal is to establish communism, so you can't rule anything out. Malaysia is pretty much under Chinese's control. Korea doesn't allow too many immigrants. And they HAVE been trying to steal technology in the U.S, and have been trying to create instability in our land. Also, it's said that the people who bought land in Africa were sent by the Chinese government, and then the purging of all foreigners thing. I don't know how long will it take for people to realize that there is a systemic effort by the Chinese to take over the world. Take over by force if you can, otherwise, use every mean necessary such as a soft invasion, piracy or money.

Regardless, the Chinese have been too unethical that it would be wise for every government to refuse to accept them.

a reply to: np6888

I'm sorry but that logic just doesn't work. By that line of thinking the Chinese are to blame for everything in the world going wrong. That's paranoid thinking. I'm not trying to talk out of school here, I'm married to a Thai woman, have spent a lot of time in Thailand and have my entire family in-law still living in Thailand. I'm telling you this has nothing to do with China moving in on Thailand. This is status quo. This is far from new or strange for that country.

originally posted by: np6888
a reply to: sputniksteve

If you notice in one of the videos, one poster said the goal is to establish communism, so you can't rule anything out. Malaysia is pretty much under Chinese's control. Korea doesn't allow too many immigrants. And they HAVE been trying to steal technology in the U.S, and have been trying to create instability in our land. Also, it's said that the people who bought land in Africa were sent by the Chinese government, and then the purging of all foreigners thing. I don't know how long will it take for people to realize that there is a systemic effort by the Chinese to take over the world. Take over by force if you can, otherwise, use every mean necessary such as a soft invasion, piracy or money.

Regardless, the Chinese have been too unethical that it would be wise for every government to refuse to accept them.

Sorry, but have you any idea of what you write? This has NOTHING to do with Communism, everything to do with greed (Thaksin Shinawatra) and the fight is about control of the nations wealth or how much can be gained (stolen) from government borrowed funds (see: bank loans for rice scam and infrastructure development of roads and railways US$4 Billion, of which approximately 50% is the actual cost).

Malaysia is NOT under Chinese control and the Chinese are a small part of the make up of the country largely made up of Malays (read Indonesians) Indians and obviously Chinese! the government is dominated by Malay politicians and the country is Muslim!

Further now your bringing Korea into it? Is that North or South? I guess North because the South does allow immigrants and who would want to live in North Korea, other than the controlling elite???

I will not comment on Chinese Global intentions or talk of ethics because it is just presumption but one fact I can tell you is the USA has over 400 military bases in 90 countries worldwide (and is expanding). Please show me where there are Chinese military bases outside of China (including Tibet which is under their control)?

As I stated earlier, if you are ignorant of facts it is better to keep quiet!

a reply to: JiggyPotamus
WE aren't attacking anyone ,THEY have to shoot first in very obvious ways. Any air strike would come to mind.

originally posted by: metodex
What caused the protests?
Isn't Thailand a kingdom? where's the king of thailand? Isn't your majesty supposed to keep order, isn't his word stronger than the army's? (lol no)

I got some reading to do.
But if Russia is making a move in Ukraine,and China is going to make a move in Thailand then the pattern is clear.

Thailand is a 'Constitutional Monachy' similar to the UK. The King does NOT run the country but he does from time to time offer guidance.

I would also venture that the Kings word is stronger than the Army. The military in Thailand will listen and act for the King as opposed to a government that does not protect it's people. I believe the King would support the Military action to invoke Martial Law because it is being done in the interests of the nation and not one man/family!

originally posted by: carabao
a reply to: Hongkongphooey

That pretty much sums it up.

I fear the thaksin sponsored redshirts will not accept any outcome that isn't totaly pro-thaksin, and that we're in for a long term guerrilla war.

Read this morning that CAPO chief Chalerm's house, along with several PTP senators, was raided this morning by the Army, wonder what that means.

ETA: This might have been a key factor: englishnews.thaipbs.or.th...

Chalerm is an embarrassment to the country, how this mafia boss (bully boy) is accepted in government, is beyond me? His two thugs of sons, think it's ok to go round shooting people and policeman, because someone stepped on their toes in a nightclub or looked at them the wrong way!

I hope the Military arrest Chalerm and Jaturaporn for inciting violence and put them where they belong!

originally posted by: Hongkongphooey

originally posted by: metodex
What caused the protests?
Isn't Thailand a kingdom? where's the king of thailand? Isn't your majesty supposed to keep order, isn't his word stronger than the army's? (lol no)

I got some reading to do.
But if Russia is making a move in Ukraine,and China is going to make a move in Thailand then the pattern is clear.

Thailand is a 'Constitutional Monachy' similar to the UK. The King does NOT run the country but he does from time to time offer guidance.

I would also venture that the Kings word is stronger than the Army. The military in Thailand will listen and act for the King as opposed to a government that does not protect it's people. I believe the King would support the Military action to invoke Martial Law because it is being done in the interests of the nation and not one man/family!

Who the hell knows what the toothless old fart thinks? His useless behind hasn't done a damn thing and has proven himself nothing but another thai citizen - one with a lot of money and special laws just for him.

Useless.

originally posted by: gusdynamite

originally posted by: Hongkongphooey

originally posted by: metodex
What caused the protests?
Isn't Thailand a kingdom? where's the king of thailand? Isn't your majesty supposed to keep order, isn't his word stronger than the army's? (lol no)

I got some reading to do.
But if Russia is making a move in Ukraine,and China is going to make a move in Thailand then the pattern is clear.

Thailand is a 'Constitutional Monachy' similar to the UK. The King does NOT run the country but he does from time to time offer guidance.

I would also venture that the Kings word is stronger than the Army. The military in Thailand will listen and act for the King as opposed to a government that does not protect it's people. I believe the King would support the Military action to invoke Martial Law because it is being done in the interests of the nation and not one man/family!

Who the hell knows what the toothless old fart thinks? His useless behind hasn't done a damn thing and has proven himself nothing but another thai citizen - one with a lot of money and special laws just for him.

Useless.

Thailand's King Bhumiphol is beloved by the vast majority of Thailand's people and contrary to your ignorant comments, he has done much over the years to improve the lives of the poor. Not just by donating money to charities but his own actual efforts when he was younger. He would set up new farming procedures to help the hilltribes develop crops and get them off of the poppy culture. He developed new and better ways to grow and harvest rice crops. He has used his own funds (not government funds) to do many things the governments should have done. He even bought the Bangkok Metropolitan Traffic Police a whole new fleet of motorcycles because they said they could not afford it! He has donated land to the people, given vast amounts to help the poor and needy!

On several occasions during his reign, he has stepped in to bring peace to the nation when political fighting between governments and students/protestors would have led to civil war!

Today he is old and frail, what would you have him do? Step down for Thaksin???

You have no idea of this man you speak of as he is not a leach like other Royal monachs around the world.

originally posted by: Hongkongphooey

originally posted by: gusdynamite

originally posted by: Hongkongphooey

originally posted by: metodex
What caused the protests?
Isn't Thailand a kingdom? where's the king of thailand? Isn't your majesty supposed to keep order, isn't his word stronger than the army's? (lol no)

I got some reading to do.
But if Russia is making a move in Ukraine,and China is going to make a move in Thailand then the pattern is clear.

Thailand is a 'Constitutional Monachy' similar to the UK. The King does NOT run the country but he does from time to time offer guidance.

I would also venture that the Kings word is stronger than the Army. The military in Thailand will listen and act for the King as opposed to a government that does not protect it's people. I believe the King would support the Military action to invoke Martial Law because it is being done in the interests of the nation and not one man/family!

Who the hell knows what the toothless old fart thinks? His useless behind hasn't done a damn thing and has proven himself nothing but another thai citizen - one with a lot of money and special laws just for him.

Useless.

Thailand's King Bhumiphol is beloved by the vast majority of Thailand's people and contrary to your ignorant comments, he has done much over the years to improve the lives of the poor. Not just by donating money to charities but his own actual efforts when he was younger. He would set up new farming procedures to help the hilltribes develop crops and get them off of the poppy culture. He developed new and better ways to grow and harvest rice crops. He has used his own funds (not government funds) to do many things the governments should have done. He even bought the Bangkok Metropolitan Traffic Police a whole new fleet of motorcycles because they said they could not afford it! He has donated land to the people, given vast amounts to help the poor and needy!

On several occasions during his reign, he has stepped in to bring peace to the nation when political fighting between governments and students/protestors would have led to civil war!

Today he is old and frail, what would you have him do? Step down for Thaksin???

You have no idea of this man you speak of as he is not a leach like other Royal monachs around the world.

Thank you for writing that. He also did much to improve the diet of the Thai people... Many think of Royals as some European fat cat..King Bhumiphol did not ask to be King but ever since he was Crowned his first thought and actions have been for the greater good of the Thai people IMO. When he passes it will be a very hard act to follow and a very sad day for the country..... who knows what will develop afterwards?

a reply to: Hongkongphooey

I never said he wasn't beloved - I said he was useless.

Edit: Yes, he is a leech as bad as any of them - especially if he needs laws to protect him from people being mean. Poor diddums. As for those awful daughters, that's another story.

Don't assume you know what someone else does or doesn't know just because you don't like what it is they have to say.

originally posted by: gusdynamite
a reply to: Hongkongphooey

I never said he wasn't beloved - I said he was useless.

Edit: Yes, he is a leech as bad as any of them - especially if he needs laws to protect him from people being mean. Poor diddums. As for those awful daughters, that's another story.

Don't assume you know what someone else does or doesn't know just because you don't like what it is they have to say.

Based upon your assumption, what have you ever done for Thai people???