Originally posted by Slicky1313
u said "why cant it be Gods" if it were god's
I agree, after that first post you made it so only a singular god would be considered. This of course is arbitrary, and it just may as well include
lesser gods who are inferior to one supreme god, say Zeus or Shiva. Indeed, most christians accept a triune godhead, and thus consider themselves
monotheists, even tho the powers of god ar divided between three different 'aspects'.
There is more evidence of Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster than there is of god."
thats not even logical, how can u be so sure theres no God?
Notice however that he did not say that there is no god, merely that there is no evidence that od exists.
"particles come into existence from nothing and turn back into it" that is impossible, things dont come from nothing.
but apparently not immpossible. Unless you want 'immpossible' to mean something other than 'cannot and does not happen'
imagine a covered room, adn in the room is NOTHING. no light, no air, no hydrogen, nuthin.
If the imaginary room is truly empty, then there will be these 'vaccuum' particles popping in and out of existence inside of it, out of the nothing,
back into the nothing.
now can u even imagine a pencil some how popping in the room of nothing?
A pencil, fully formed? Thats not what you are talking about tho. You are saying that since nothing can come out of nothing, then there must be a
god that created everything, an eternal god. I do not agree that this is a logical proof of god's existence, nor do I agree that 'nothing can come
out of nothing'. Things infact do. Not pencils or whatnot, but something can come out of nothing.
everyone with decent scientific knowledge would agree something in the universe is eternal.
This entire line of reasoning however is founded on the idea that nothing can come from nothing, whereas something can come from nothing. And even if
one were to pretend for the moment that nothing can come from nothing, how is this proof of god? It could just as easily be that the universe itself
is eternal, even if it goes thru 'inflation events' like the big bang. Its also entirely possible, now that I think of it, that there was some
previously existing 'eternal' god that brought the universe into existence, but that, for whatever the reason, is not 'all powerful' or that
something could come out of the universe that is more powerful than that god. Why not, after all?
according to the 1st law of thermo dynamics, matter can neither be created nor destroyed,
Then the universe can not have been created and must have allways existed and there was no god that created it. A god could've existed along side
with it all along, but there can't be any point in which the universe itself doesn't exist and is then created.
thus matter being created out of nothing is impossible, ud have to throw out all the laws of physics if you give one law a punch in the
stomache and somehow say "we'll, its true, but lets pretend it doesnt exist"
I don't suggest that we pretend it doesn't occur. And thats the problem with "Laws of Physics'. They aren't invioable laws.
And if the universe is eternal, wouldnt the universe have run out of hydrogen by now
Why? This could be the begining of it.
so all u stupid people (not to hurt any members) who think u can break all the laws of physics and have blind faith of things popping out of
absolutely nothing and going back are fools!
Try picking up a book on modern physics before you start calling other people 'fools'.
stupid ignorant sons and daughters of no good rotten dirty filthy dirt bags (no offense to any of the members :-))
Having some difficulties are ya?
It is like arguing about the existence of Murcklians
What the hell kind of idiot is going to say that murcklians don't exist?
and you STILL havent created logical information on why a supernatural being that is the highest power can or can not exist.
And neither have you nor anyone else here nor, as far as I am aware, anyone else in the existence of human history.
The one cause is god and the effect is all the material that is
Why is the only cause god? Or are you saying god is just the 'cause' itself and ceased to exist after that? And what caused the cause?