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HAARP: what is it really.

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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:42 PM
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There is alot of disinfo on Haarp.

This is the best video i can find on Haarp. No weapon. Nothing to do with Tesla.



This Man knows what he is talking about.

Haarp is Short Wave HF device.

What we should be more worried about is China Haarp or the stuff we don't even know about he says.

I'd suggest listen to it a couple times to let it soak in.

Thanks Guys





posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:48 PM
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Well is getting dismantled. What worry me is Haarp 2.0 as they will not dismantle it if there is not something more evil to replace it with.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 02:52 PM
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Im thinking the folks that built the haarp were just sick and tired or their tv reception going out. Btheyvwentvto radio shake and built a antenna but that still failed to work with the shoddy reception the tv broadcasters have out there so he was pissed and went a little overboard on the next antenna. But be damned he was going to get his reception, he wasn't missing another episode if his then favorite show Dawson's creek. ( rumore had it he was a huge James Vanderbeck fan) anyways one thing lead to another and that's how the harp got built and the reasoning behind it.

Now the give kept the haarp a secret for so long because they were worried about getting in trouble for all the free cable they were getting through that thing.

Not much of a mystery in the end it turned out.

a reply to: GallopingFish



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:03 PM
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If anyone wonders how submerged submarines get their war orders to shoot off their load of missiles… thats Haarp.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:04 PM
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a reply to: GallopingFish

What it is is its now CLOSED DOWN. You knew that rt?



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: neversaynever
Well is getting dismantled. What worry me is Haarp 2.0 as they will not dismantle it if there is not something more evil to replace it with.


Only if no other agency's/organisations want it for that 5 million a year they were asking.

They say they burst a billion watts of electromagnetic energy into the ionosphere to push the layers up some how but what they DON'T know is the actually long term effects of doing this and thats why everyone's so scared.

A billion watts is A LOT of energy to release in a fraction of a second, its like an energy nuke.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:14 PM
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HARP operates in the HF spectrum.

Short wavelength=higher frequency.

HARP (High Altitude Radio Propagation) Uses the ionizing radiation from a solar flair or (CME) to propagate HF radio signals around the globe.

For anyone interested in this topic, i suggest you direct your researcher towards, Sporadic E Layer. That is the ionosphere, the layer of the atmosphere directly related to in atmosphere HF propagation.

You cant send RF energy through solid objects easily but you can bounce RF.



Excuse my crude drawing


Radio waves are for the most part, line of site communications.

That is why they only use it during solar flairs. The sun pumps out enough ionizing radiation that it actually lowers the necessary power output of the amplifiers.

Must run, will stop back soon.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: GallopingFish

HAARP terminated
by Sharon Hill • May 16, 2014 •

"Conspiracy theorists’ favorite excuse is gone down the toilet. In an update to this story from last year about HAARP being closed, it’s not reopening."



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:24 PM
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a reply to: mysterioustranger

Awesome!!

Something good actually happened on my birthday that i might remember for once!



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: GallopingFish

What it is is its now CLOSED DOWN. You knew that rt?



Yep, nothing put an antenna used to communicate with submarines anywhere in the world. They are probably using satellite technology now, who knows.
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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 04:04 PM
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a reply to: GallopingFish

I am sorry, but we are going to have to sack you. Your thread isn't sinister enough.
You need to throw in some general paranoia, a bit of hyperbole, and some good old fashioned doom porn.

Silly person, people on ATS aren't interested in facts, only fantastic fantasy.

Actually, good thread.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: mysterioustranger

Yeah I know, but my point was more that its not or was not a weapon and it has nothing to do with tesla.

Its more to just show people what it was or haarp 2.0 is or will be.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: intrptr
Nope. They're still using normal VLF transmitters for that kind of stuff. Not really good for much though, other than saying "you have mail" so the sub can drop an acoustic relay bouy for a conversation over a satellite link.

HAARP is not very good at producing VLF or ELF signals. Too dependent upon ionospheric conditions. Even under the best conditions they managed to produce a signal of only about 10 - 30 watts. Good for checking ionospheric conditions, not so good for communications. By comparison the Jim Creek VLF station puts out more than a megawatt.
spp.astro.umd.edu...


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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: GallopingFish

You know too? I read as well, there are a lot of these facilities worldwide, although I cant quotes the sources. I'd have to dig around. But I understood there are (and still are) HAARP clone-copies around the world in a dozen or so places.

Now thats something Im wondering about as to the agenda for those: hidden or otherwise!



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: mysterioustranger



Now thats something Im wondering about as to the agenda for those: hidden or otherwise!

The same as HAARP (though HAARP is the most powerful of them). Ionospheric research. For both military (which does not necessarily mean weaponry) and civilian purposes.




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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: GallopingFish

You know too? I read as well, there are a lot of these facilities worldwide, although I cant quotes the sources. I'd have to dig around. But I understood there are (and still are) HAARP clone-copies around the world in a dozen or so places.

Now thats something Im wondering about as to the agenda for those: hidden or otherwise!



That's what Dollard is saying in the video, why so much worry about US haarp. They only turned it on during solar flares and didn't broadcast on primary channels. Planes etc

But china haarp is on all the time and alot more pestilent.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 07:06 PM
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Good for checking ionospheric conditions, not so good for communications.

But useable in an emergency. its one option in case the satellites and other stations you mentioned go down. That might happen in war, so haarp was one option to generate signals (depending on conditions) over the horizon. It was operated at an air force base for them and the Navy. Most of the Haarp stations are coincidental to large bodies of water for that reason as well.

All around the world (far from aurora research), by the way.

It also analyzes the ionosphere with other instruments, according to your link.



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: GallopingFish

They only turned it on during solar flares
That is false. In fact, it is more desirable to perform experiments when solar activity is low in order to more accurately determine the effects of the experiments. I made a thread regarding a way to determine when the heater was in use. There was only very minor solar and geomagnetic activity at the time of the experiments I noted.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here's a write up on a series of experiments. On none of the days of the experiments was there significant solar activity.
www.users.miamioh.edu... n%20Measurement%20and%20Analysis.pdf



posted on May, 19 2014 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: intrptr

That might happen in war, so haarp was one option to generate signals (depending on conditions) over the horizon. It was operated at an air force base for them and the Navy.
It was never intended to be used to communicate with submarines though is was used to investigate the possibilities of using ionospheric heating as a means of doing so. HAARP is not located at an Air Force base.


Most of the Haarp stations are coincidental to large bodies of water for that reason as well.
Which "Haarp stations?"

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posted on May, 19 2014 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: GallopingFish Haarp is a series of frequency transmitters designed to allow spiritual travel back to all original planets of orgin that collectivly make up earth. They are truely free now. phage you just wouldn't understand but i agree with all of your accepted views and facts but it is just part of the truth.



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