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Conspiracy Theorists Vindicated: HAARP Confirmed Weather-manipulation Tool

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posted on May, 20 2014 @ 03:40 PM
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They must not like California.




posted on May, 20 2014 @ 04:29 PM
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Found some clips from the Holes in Heaven HAARP Documentary

I find Interesting

Holes in Heaven: Clip— Defense

Defense program Not Necessarily using the HARRP but more less talking about using Weapons in the Ionosphere
Plasma Bombs To Missle Strikes and Talks about SHIVA aka SHIVA STAR (Energy Storage Compositor) for a Possible Use for the Cold War Reagan Era Star Wars Program

Holes in Heaven: Clip— Defense



Brooks Agnew : Earth Tomographer
about his Idea what Would Happen if HARRP was Used the Other way around into the Ground with the Use of a Billion Watts instead of 30 watts looking for Gas or Oil used as a Earthquake Weapon ?
if its even romotley possible ? as Im not Aware of his Credentials his Thos in this Clip it has John Heckscher program Manager of HARRP saying the will be doing experiments well planing of find Tunnels underground ( What ) ? did i hear that right .. hold on ill going to recheck this clip .. yup he did also, it has Ritch Garcia saying finding gas and oil too.. what he is saying is not HAARP itself, its the Technology is Used that makes HAARP

Holes in Heaven: Clip— Magnetic Fields



Holes in Heaven: Clip— Weather Modification Using HAARP







Holes in Heaven: Clip— Earthquakes



HMMM ????

Dr. Brooks Agnew was Debunked on HAARP my ass WATCH THIS
Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:31
______beforeitsnews/conspiracy-theories/2014/01/dr-brooks-agnew-was-debunked-on-haarp-my-ass-watch-this-2459034.html


TAT'S 2 MIN NEWS 12814 HAARP WOW REALLY



AHHH PHAGE !! need some help here



As HAARP is Intended to Simulate effects like a Very Weak Sun in a Direct Focused Spot on the opposite side of the Ionosphere , and what a potential Usage if it was in the Hands of a MAD Scientist LOL:

So we are in the Line of a ( What if ) with HAARP Technology ( not saying HAARP ) used for a different purpose ..



posted on May, 20 2014 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: Wolfenz

Brooks Agnew is a jackass. He says he caused an earthquake using ground penetrating radar. He says HAARP does the same thing. GPR uses microwaves, HAARP doesn't. Neither one causes earthquakes.

Brooks Agnew is full of crap and a liar. At the most basic level, he's calling the mist in the cloud chamber water vapor. Water vapor is invisible. Mist isn't.

What he is doing is heating the mist and it evaporates, becomes invisible water vapor. Imagine that.
Nothing having to do with HAARP. Not using radio waves. Not using a phased array. Not using cyclotron resonance. Just bullcrap.

Here's the full episode. Go to 34:00 and see him busted. "Nothing is getting hot." Ha! Busted!
www.youtube.com...



As HAARP is Intended to Simulate effects like a Very Weak Sun in a Direct Focused Spot on the opposite side of the Ionosphere , and what a potential Usage if it was in the Hands of a MAD Scientist
Not a focused spot, an area of about 50 square miles after starting from an area of about 0.05 square miles. Not much use for a MAD scientist unless he was interested in the same research that has been going on for 10 or 15 years.

Oh, Brooks Agnew also thinks the Earth is hollow.
thehollowearthinsider.com...
Or maybe he doesn't' actually believe it:

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posted on May, 20 2014 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Unless the signal is an absurdly short pulse (it isn't) difference is not relevant.


So a short pulse could solve the interference problem?



HAARP Array Capabilities pdf

Each HAARP antenna is independently wired so it could do a rapid stream of short pulses of 10 microseconds at 200 KHz.

At the speed of light 10 microseconds is about 3 Km.

Which fits the Low Frequency EMR exactly.



Physics Info

or is all of that standard equipment for any phased array heater ?



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posted on May, 20 2014 @ 06:59 PM
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a reply to: Semicollegiate

Yes it can do that close up. But power of the signal falls off enormously as it travels. It has to listen for a very small portion of the signal for a response. It is powerful enough to detect a small metallic object over 250 miles away across or up. The amount of power needed to effect an area at that range would take a lot of power or a very concentrated beam much more than Aegis puts out.
The secret might be the frequency in use. Unless they can get an amplified response from the correct portion of the atmosphere the puny power from a single transmitter shouldn't effect anything significant. I know how much power it can put out I worked on the Aegis radar system a while back. To keep things straight I won't state the value. No way of knowing if the power output is classified. It is above the mega watt range by quite a bit.
The fact of the experiment continuing says something was learned. Since they didn't tell us the results could be it didn't work? Move along nothing happened here..



posted on May, 20 2014 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: datasdream

The toroidal field made by the dipole antenna does look very weak.

Perhaps the patent had to do with the combinations and timing of transmission.

Maybe adjacent toroids turn into vertical planes or something.

Or maybe the antennas aren't really dipoles.



posted on May, 20 2014 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Wolfenz

Brooks Agnew is a jackass. He says he caused an earthquake using ground penetrating radar. He says HAARP does the same thing. GPR uses microwaves, HAARP doesn't. Neither one causes earthquakes.

Brooks Agnew is full of crap and a liar. At the most basic level, he's calling the mist in the cloud chamber water vapor. Water vapor is invisible. Mist isn't.

What he is doing is heating the mist and it evaporates, becomes invisible water vapor. Imagine that.
Nothing having to do with HAARP. Not using radio waves. Not using a phased array. Not using cyclotron resonance. Just bullcrap.

Here's the full episode. Go to 34:00 and see him busted. "Nothing is getting hot." Ha! Busted!
www.youtube.com...



As HAARP is Intended to Simulate effects like a Very Weak Sun in a Direct Focused Spot on the opposite side of the Ionosphere , and what a potential Usage if it was in the Hands of a MAD Scientist
Not a focused spot, an area of about 50 square miles after starting from an area of about 0.05 square miles. Not much use for a MAD scientist unless he was interested in the same research that has been going on for 10 or 15 years.

Oh, Brooks Agnew also thinks the Earth is hollow.
thehollowearthinsider.com...
Or maybe he doesn't' actually believe it:

Become part of History. Donate.




Well Thank for the Help an info .. Clarifying it all

and that's why Im more Tuned in in John Heckscher and Ritch Garcia Through Out the Whole Doc Video
of Holes in Heaven HAARP

Though John Heckscher The Program Manger of HAARP ( at the time when the Video came about )

Did say of HAARP being used Experiment Tested for Look for Tunnels Underground ??

Unless He was Referring The Technology of HAARP .. sigh ...

Joe ROGAN BUSTED AGNEW LOL..



posted on May, 20 2014 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: Semicollegiate

So a short pulse could solve the interference problem?
You still don't understand. There is no interference problem. It is the interference patterns which make it possible to steer the beam. Without the interference patterns the beam would not be directional except for generally "up". That's the whole idea behind a phased array. That's the whole reason for having all those antennas.


Each HAARP antenna is independently wired so it could do a rapid stream of short pulses of 10 microseconds at 200 KHz.
No. The ionospheric heater has a frequency range of 2.8 to 10 MHz. 200 KHz is the sampling rate used to monitor phase shifting.
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posted on May, 20 2014 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: Wolfenz

Did say of HAARP being used Experiment Tested for Look for Tunnels Underground ??
Yes. But it didn't work very well because the VLF signal that HAARP can induce in the ionosphere is very weak.

It is currently done using natural VLF signals produced by lightning. It was thought that ionospheric heating could produce strong enough signals "on demand" instead of waiting for nature help out. It turns out it doesn't work very well. The conditions in the ionosphere have to be right and even then the signal is very weak.

Lightning produces much stronger signals and the technology to use it has improved.
techfinder.stanford.edu...





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posted on May, 20 2014 @ 10:08 PM
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Back in the 80s there was a documentary called "Holes in Heaven" about HAARP, we knew it existed back then, at least some of us who chose to believe and some didn't.



posted on May, 20 2014 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: lotusfoot
Has someone said it doesn't exist?
We've been talking about it on ATS for a very long time and I don't recall anyone ever saying it doesn't exist.

But HAARP wasn't built until the 1990's.



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posted on May, 20 2014 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: Wolfenz
I agree with both of you, Joe Rogan is the man and Brooks Agnew lives a dream.



posted on May, 20 2014 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: Phage
The title leads me to think the OP thinks the "conspiracy theorists" were recently vindicated in their beliefs. Thanks for pointing that out though, Im glad someone keeps up with these little things. For some reason thought the docu was from the 80s, it was later 90s, before someone goes to the trouble to point that out, my mistake.
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posted on May, 20 2014 @ 10:17 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Wolfenz

Did say of HAARP being used Experiment Tested for Look for Tunnels Underground ??
Yes. But it didn't work very well because the VLF signal that HAARP can induce in the ionosphere is very weak.

It is currently done using natural VLF signals produced by lightning. It was thought that ionospheric heating could produce strong enough signals "on demand" instead of waiting for nature help out. It turns out it doesn't work very well. The conditions in the ionosphere have to be right and even then the signal is very weak.

Lightning produces much stronger signals and the technology to use it has improved.
techfinder.stanford.edu...



Thanks Again

As you have said its more less the Cause of the VLF Signal being Very Weak

The Big Question If HAARP or i Should Say HAARP Technology. were to Use for Underground Detecting & Mapping

A Big What if We Could Amplify to a Degree to make it Work ( Very Strong Signal ) Using ? AHH Something like a Storage Compassitor SHIVA Star like Device for a Pulse BOOST ?

There was a Video that Ive seen a Documentary a Legit One not a Conspirator Documentary lol

that HAARP (( Thought )) of Using a SHIVA as Far as I can Remember not sure what the Video was Called

I wish I knew as i cant remember, of what the name of the video was it was someone saying this during a Tour of the Control Room in the HAARP Building


Page 44 in the PDF

Defense_Laboratory_Enterprise
www.acq.osd.mil...


Interesting

Air Force HAARP

High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP), Gakona, Alaska HAARP provides capabilities for conducting experimental research on high-power, radio wave interactions in the ionosphere and space. The high-frequency transmitting system, completed in February of 2007, consists of 180 antenna elements arranged as a rectangular array of 15 columns by 12 rows, providing a radiated power of 3,600 kW. The program is jointly managed by the Space Vehicles Directorate and the Office of Naval Research.

Air Force SHIVA STAR
Infrared Radiation Effects Laboratory (IRREL),
Kirtland AFB, New Mexico The IRREL provides radiometric and radiation characterizations for focal plane arrays (FPA) and associated devices using government-furnished equipment. The data and analyses produced by this laboratory are vitally important in determining the overall performance and radiation hardness of devices for use in space applications. This effort includes the development of innovative techniques for advancing the state-of-the-art characterization of infrared and visible FPAs and associated devices, including the development of characterization and analytical techniques, test hardware, and operational and test procedures that advance the experimental capabilities of the IRREL.





This for those Conspiracy Nuts Some truth ( Real Deal ) Some fabled?

NOTE: While this has nothing to do with HAARP
Just what some people think of what HAARP as a Weapon ..
a Speculation of What HAARP Could do if you Add some devices and Tweaking ?
if even that is Possible. Question is HOW it could be done, and WHAT For what would the results be

Directed-energy weapon
en.wikipedia.org...


The Only Known Results ( Testing ) for a Hight altitude or Space Weapon that actually Happened

A Nuclear Bomb Testing in Space ( over Hawaii ) that Created a huge EMP discharge

Starfish Prime


Starfish Prime was a high-altitude nuclear test conducted by the United States of America on July 9, 1962, a joint effort of the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) and the Defense Atomic Support Agency (which became the Defense Nuclear Agency in 1971).



Explosion Another view of Starfish Prime through thin cloud, as seen from Honolulu On July 9, 1962, at 09:00:09 Coordinated Universal Time, (July 8, Honolulu time, at nine seconds after 11 p.m.), the Starfish Prime test was successfully detonated at an altitude of 400 kilometres (250 mi). The coordinates of the detonation were 16°28′N 169°38′WCoordinates: 16°28′N 169°38′W.[5] The actual weapon yield came very close to the design yield, which various sources have set at different values in the range of 1.4 to 1.45 megatons (6.0 PJ).

The Thor missile carrying the Starfish Prime warhead reached a maximum height of about 1100 km (just over 680 miles), and the warhead detonated on its downward trajectory when it had fallen to the programmed altitude of 400 kilometres (250 mi). The nuclear warhead detonated 13 minutes and 41 seconds after liftoff of the Thor missile from Johnston Island.[6]

Starfish Prime caused an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) which was far larger than expected, so much larger that it drove much of the instrumentation off scale, causing great difficulty in getting accurate measurements. The Starfish Prime electromagnetic pulse also made those effects known to the public by causing electrical damage in Hawaii, about 1,445 kilometres (898 mi) away from the detonation point, knocking out about 300 streetlights, setting off numerous burglar alarms and damaging a telephone company microwave link. The EMP damage to the microwave link shut down telephone calls from Kauai to the other Hawaiian islands.[5] A total of 27 small rockets were launched from Johnston Island to obtain experimental data from the Starfish Prime detonation.

In addition, a large number of rocket-borne instruments were launched from a firing area at Barking Sands, Kauai in the Hawaiian Islands.[7] A very large number of United States military ships and aircraft were operating in support of Starfish Prime in the Johnston Island area and across the nearby North Pacific region. A few military ships and aircraft were also positioned in the region of the South Pacific Ocean near the Samoan Islands. This location was at the southern end of the magnetic field line of the Earth's magnetic field from the position of the nuclear detonation, an area known as the southern conjugate region for the test.

In addition, an uninvited scientific expeditionary ship from the Soviet Union was stationed near Johnston Island for the test and another Soviet scientific expeditionary ship was located in the southern conjugate region near the Samoan Islands.[8]


"Strong electromagnetic signals were observed from the burst, as were significant magnetic field disturbances and earth currents."


Aftereffects While some of the energetic beta particles followed the Earth's magnetic field and illuminated the sky, other high-energy electrons became trapped and formed radiation belts around the earth. There was much uncertainty and debate[who?] about the composition, magnitude and potential adverse effects from this trapped radiation after the detonation. The weaponeers became quite worried when three satellites in low earth orbit were disabled. These man-made radiation belts eventually crippled one-third of all satellites in low earth orbit. Seven satellites failed over the months following the test as radiation damaged their solar arrays or electronics, including the first commercial relay communication satellite, Telstar.[11][12][13] Detectors on Telstar, TRAAC, Injun, and Ariel 1 were used to measure distribution of the radiation produced by the tests.[14] In 1963, Brown et al. reported in the Journal of Geophysical Research that Starfish Prime had created a belt of MeV electrons,[15] and Wilmot Hess reported in 1968 that some Starfish electrons remained for five years.[







edit on 20-5-2014 by Wolfenz because: en.wikipedia.org...



posted on May, 20 2014 @ 10:25 PM
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That reminds me of something LOL

Escape From LA Ending Scene - End of All Electricity



posted on May, 20 2014 @ 10:48 PM
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A Big What if We Could Amplify to a Degree to make it Work ( Very Strong Signal ) Using ? AHH Something like a Storage Compassitor SHIVA Star like Device for a Pulse BOOST ?
If you're going to do that why bother with HAARP? But it seems like a lot of trouble when lightning does the job, even if you have to wait a while.

But what they found with inducing VLF with the heater is that there is not a linear relationship between the power used and the strength of the VLF emissions. The higher the power transmitted, the less the increase in VLF power. The indication being that there would be a saturation point where it wouldn't matter how much power you transmitted, you wouldn't get more VLF.



that HAARP (( Thought )) of Using a SHIVA as Far as I can Remember not sure what the Video was Called
Doesn't make sense. You don't power radio transmitters with a bazillion watts of instantaneous power. The purpose of HAARP is to use HF radio to fiddle with the ionosphere. One blast from SHIVA would turn the transmitters into ashes.


"Strong electromagnetic signals were observed from the burst, as were significant magnetic field disturbances and earth currents."
Yes. An EMP, electromagnetic pulse.






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posted on May, 20 2014 @ 10:49 PM
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a reply to: lotusfoot
It was supposedly the weather control aspect which was "admitted."
Which, of course, it wasn't. Because it can't.



posted on May, 20 2014 @ 11:55 PM
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a reply to: Phage
Phage, you have trolled every comment on this topic for a while now . Dont you have any hobbies, a girlfriend, or a life in general ? Or is it your destiny to make sure everyone shares what you read from the particular website you read it from about HAARP ? Because Im not impressed that you can find fault with everything people say.


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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 01:05 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
It is the interference patterns which make it possible to steer the beam.

... and focus it, no?



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 01:10 AM
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a reply to: Flux8
No. Aim it, and limit spreading somewhat.
Like this:

No focusing. The farther from the array, the wider and weaker.
www.met.reading.ac.uk...
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