Town's White Police Official Calls Obama N-word - Refuses to Apologize

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
And, Again, the "other people do it so why cant I?" defense is weak at best.

I hope you are not serious.

That 'weak defense' is the basis of minority rights, women's suffrage, and a host of other "enlightened" movements over the past century.

They all started with, "the other people do it, so why can't I".

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: TiedDestructor

Do you think this Copeland guy meant his comment in the same way? You think he likes Obama and was just teasing about him?

Honestly I'm not sure.

I don't know enough about the man. I know I've probably been labeled racist by people who have heard "parts" of my conversation in public places. I agree with the context of usage but disagree with who can decide what that context is.

a reply to: peck420

It wasn't considered context based in Florida when a black girl called, ironically a hispanic, man a cracker. Why should it be context based when a white man calls a, ironically half white, man a 'n-word'?

CONTEXT. Calling someone a "F%&$ing N@##$r" is hate speech. If you can show me any way its not, Ill gladly take a look.

I see you're going to dig and scratch to find any example you can of a time when it was not considered hate speech, so Ill put it like this: It should have been considered hate speech then, but the fact that it wasnt doesnt excuse the use of hate speech in other instances.

For the third time, the "they got to do it so why cant I?" defense holds no water. People have gotten away with murder. That doesnt mean that murder is now ok.

Because we have equality laws. If we are willing to allow one group to do something, we must allow everybody to do that same thing.

Equality laws? SERIOUSLY?

originally posted by: peck420

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
And, Again, the "other people do it so why cant I?" defense is weak at best.

I hope you are not serious.

That 'weak defense' is the basis of minority rights, women's suffrage, and a host of other "enlightened" movements over the past century.

They all started with, "the other people do it, so why can't I".

This is pathetic.

You are really comparing wanting equal rights in society to who can and cant publicly get away with using a word?

There is a lot of very poorly hidden bigotry residing in this thread...

Almost 20 pages of Word Police in action...

Now it's the context....Judged by who.

I would submit if you don't like a word don't say that word.

But, to tell one segment of society they can't use a word. Does that sound fair ?

To say it's about context. Judged exactly by who....YOU ?

This word Police crap is the final assault of a failed agenda.

Is there anyone that wants to claim the have never used a racial slur ?

Speak up ?

Because....I don't believe you.

a reply to: whyamIhere

tell me any other context in which calling someone a "Fu^%ing Ni&&er" can be taken.

Please, share.

Im waiting.

This should be awesome.

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
a reply to: whyamIhere

tell me any other context in which calling someone a "Fu^%ing Ni&&er" can be taken.

Please, share.

Im waiting.

This should be awesome.

Black people say that everyday.

Exactly what context are they using ?

a reply to: whyamIhere

This word Police crap is the final assault of a failed agenda.

Im not sure about any 'agenda'///but the public shift in tolerance is hardly something you can call 'failed'....the fact that its succeeding is EXACTLY why we have this thread with a handful of people stuck 20 years ago defending hate speech.

Tolerance is winning, bud, and it aint even close.

Is there anyone that wants to claim the have never used a racial slur ?

Ive certainly never used one in public, and if I did, I certainly would cry about the fact that someone was offended by it.

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
This is pathetic.

Only your hypocrisy on the issue is pathetic. We are equal or we are not.

You are really comparing wanting equal rights in society to who can and cant publicly get away with using a word?

Equal rights...but, one group can use certain words and one group can not...

There is a lot of very poorly hidden bigotry residing in this thread...

I wouldn't say that you have been very subtle at all.

a reply to: whyamIhere

Black people call people "fu%$ing Ni@#$rs" every day? Care to cite an example?

And, can you please explain to me, since the other posters cant, how the "well that person got to do it, so so should I!" defense works?

Tolerance is a great thing...

Especially when it is applied equally.

Some people don't want one standard for everybody.

I do...

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
a reply to: whyamIhere

Black people call people "fu%$ing Ni@#$rs" every day? Care to cite an example?

And, can you please explain to me, since the other posters cant, how the "well that person got to do it, so so should I!" defense works?

Their music...

a reply to: peck420

Only your hypocrisy on the issue is pathetic. We are equal or we are not.

Care to quote for me ANY equal rights law that states all public response to all people saying anything must be exactly the same?

See, you are talking about "equal rights laws", as if they have anything to do with this. Was he arrested? Then it isnt about the law.

Equal rights...but, one group can use certain words and one group can not..

Anybody can use them. Let me repeat. ANYBODY CAN USE THEM.
Sounds like you are simply upset because the public would react differently to you saying it than some. Boo hoo. Again, it has nothing to do with the law, as no one is being charged with anything.

I wouldn't say that you have been very subtle at all.

Just admit that you, and your friends, are mad that you cant call people that word anymore. Just admit it. You'll feel better.

a reply to: whyamIhere

Please, quote me a line where they say "that Fu@#ing Ni$#er". And Ill gladly tell you that it is hate speech.

Then, maybe you can tell me how that changes ANYTHING about this.

See, the thing is, if you were worried about it being used by black people, you wouldnt be using it as a reason why its ok for white people to say. Youd be using it as an example of people who shouldnt be saying it.

You guys give yourselves away....

a reply to: captaintyinknots
Ask and you shall recieve:

a reply to: jrod

So, your example of a black person using hatespeech is a COMEDY routine? COMEDY?

Ill say it flat out, though, I dont like when he, or anyone uses that word.

Now care to tell me how this excuses what the person from the OP said?

a reply to: captaintyinknots

Did you even watch the clip?

Of course you didn't, a 4 minute clip and you post less than 2 minute after me.

It is actually very insightful. You should watch it.

I absolutely love New Hampshire.

I wrote a novel, including a segment on how the 21st-century definition of the "n" word simply means "ignorant person." Sadly, that would still apply to almost all black people, but it would also apply to almost all americans, europeans, and jews... so nothing racist about it.

In fact, it's racist for blacks to say that whites can't use the word. So either blacks gotta drop the "n" word including the "ga" variations, or gotta accept whites using it.

Edit: If you ever read this, Robert Copeland, stand by your opinions. Truly, God bless you for defending the United States Constitution and for not being afraid to speak the truth. Obama is what he is. Political correctness has gone too far in this country. Another American hero from New Hampshire (like Timothy Horrigan "food stamps for guns").

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
a reply to: whyamIhere

Please, quote me a line where they say "that Fu@#ing Ni$#er". And Ill gladly tell you that it is hate speech.

Then, maybe you can tell me how that changes ANYTHING about this.

When you seek to apply a double standard.

Then catch some bigot Sheriff spouting some crap in a Cafe.

You can't have a Free Society with equal Rights for all.

Then start trying to apply your personal standard to a certain group of People.

Either we are all equal or we are not.

Why should any group be excluded from Society's rules ?

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: captaintyinknots

Did you even watch the clip?

Of course you didn't, a 4 minute clip and you post less than 2 minute after me.

It is actually very insightful. You should watch it.

Ive seen literally every chris rock standup available. Literally every single one.