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You are drawing conclusions based on your own lack of experience in any of the fields needed.
If there were any merit to your personal beliefs there would be a ground swell of experts coming forth.
originally posted by: hgfbob
The Delft school of Architecture partially collapsed from fire several years ago. Witnesses reported hearing loud explosions.
really.....wow.......were the people at that collapse 1400 feet away, and did they HEAR the explosion BEFORE the building collapsed as in ALL they quotes I supplied state occurred???
Why can't you do that with SCIENCES?
LIEUTENANT PATRICK SCARINGELLO EMS
"I heard the explosion from up above. I looked up, I saw smoke and flame and then I saw the top tower tilt, start to twist and lean".
that all YOUR IDEAS
originally posted by: hgfbob
since the SOUND already took about 2 seconds to reach them being 1400+ feet away from the source,
....I am posting facts
Lieutenant Patrick Scaringello location Fulton and Church.
FIREFIGHTER RICHARD BOERI WTC2
"We had our backs to the tower and under that pedestrian bridge walking south, myself, Eddie Kennedy and the officer, when you heard the crackling. You looked up and you saw the one floor explode on itself and the top start to slide"
FIREFIGHTER WILLIAM REYNOLDS
"I was distracted by a large explosion from the south tower and it seemed like fire was shooting out a couple of hundred feet in each direction, then all of a sudden the top of the tower started coming down"
Distance from center of WTC2 to center of Fulton and Church: 722ft
Time it took sound to reach Patricks ear : 1.06 seconds
Distance top of tower would have fallen in that amount of time at 60% G : 9.8ft
Patrick Missed observing about 10ft of a 1,362 ft collapse due to light/sound speed difference.
Is the math too difficult for you to understand ?
You mean they heard a loud sound they took as an explosion.
You really need to get a little more educated in these things before making such ignorant claims and assumptions.
I love how you selectively use NIST to prop up your argument
but then totally ignore everything else that disproves your argument.
and thought Loose Change and all those Truther websites were amazing.
why would he do that?
and I love that you can not quote ANYTHING from within that same 10,000+ page report from the NIST 2005 SCIENTIFIC investigation bestowed by Congress to find out how and why three buildings fell on 9-11....you use duhbunker sites that ESPLAIN what the report REALLY mean ....lol.
The collapse of the WTC towers was not caused either by a conventional building fire or even solely by the concurrent multi-floor fires that day. Instead, NIST concluded that the WTC towers collapsed because: (1) the impact of the planes severed and damaged support columns, dislodged fireproofing insulation coating the steel floor trusses and steel columns, and widely dispersed jet fuel over multiple floors; and (2) the subsequent unusually large, jet-fuel ignited multi-floor fires weakened the now susceptible structural steel. No building in the United States has ever been subjected to the massive structural damage and concurrent multi-floor fires that the towers experienced on Sept. 11, 2001.
NIST’s findings also do not support the “controlled demolition” theory since there is conclusive evidence that:
the collapse was initiated in the impact and fire floors of the WTC towers and nowhere else, and;
the time it took for the collapse to initiate (56 minutes for WTC 2 and 102 minutes for WTC 1) was dictated by (1) the extent of damage caused by the aircraft impact, and (2) the time it took for the fires to reach critical locations and weaken the structure to the point that the towers could not resist the tremendous energy released by the downward movement of the massive top section of the building at and above the fire and impact floors.
Video evidence also showed unambiguously that the collapse progressed from the top to the bottom, and there was no evidence (collected by NIST, or by the New York Police Department, the Port Authority Police Department or the Fire Department of New York) of any blast or explosions in the region below the impact and fire floors as the top building sections (including and above the 98th floor in WTC 1 and the 82nd floor in WTC 2) began their downward movement upon collapse initiation.
In summary, NIST found no corroborating evidence for alternative hypotheses suggesting that the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition using explosives planted prior to Sept. 11, 2001. NIST also did not find any evidence that missiles were fired at or hit the towers. Instead, photographs and videos from several angles clearly show that the collapse initiated at the fire and impact floors and that the collapse progressed from the initiating floors downward until the dust clouds obscured the view.
Federal decision makers need access to the best available science in order to craft policies that protect our health, safety, and environment. Unfortunately, censorship of scientists and the manipulation, distortion, and suppression of scientific information have threatened federal science in recent years.
(1) the impact of the planes severed and damaged support columns
dislodged fireproofing insulation coating the steel floor trusses and steel columns
NIST 1-6A Appendix C Passive Fire Protection p.274..."within the debris fields created by the aircraft impact into WTC 1 &2...thermal insulation was damaged and dislodged"