Mike Bara runs away from debating a scientist he insulted

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posted on May, 16 2014 @ 11:45 AM
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(reposted with permish from the Emoluments of Mars blog)

Mike Bara, a former CAD-CAM technician in the aerospace industry, calls himself a "born-again conspiracy theorist." He has no knowledge of, or training in, astronomy.

On 28th October last year, Bara appeared as a guest on Coast-to-Coast AM, basically to plug his appalling error-filled book Ancient Aliens on Mars. George Noory was aware of the controversy Bara's previous book had stirred up over the so-called "Daedalus ziggurat" on the Moon, and asked about Dr Stuart Robbins' criticisms of Bara's deductions (Dr Robbins is a fully qualified planetary astronomer with very good knowledge of selenology). Bara said something to the effect that Robbins didn't know what he was talking about, and Noory said "He's a scientist, though, isn't he?" Bara snorted and replied "Yes, he's a scientist, but he sucks at it."

Robbins had already sent e-mail to Noory asking for a right of reply, something that had loosely been agreed to already after a previous Barathon. Noory replied actually during the Oct 28 show, saying that Mike Bara had agreed to an online debate but would not be available until February. February came and went, and Noory suggested April. April came and Noory stopped responding to Robbins' e-mails. Finally, this week, Derek Eunson ("binaryspellbook") urged Cost-to-Coast to get this debate set up and got the reply "It takes two to tango."

So Mike Bara insults a qualified planetary scientist, offers no justification for his daft opinion, then won't allow debate on the issue. Coward.




posted on May, 16 2014 @ 01:01 PM
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Nah, he had the chance to promote his "book" as I may call this pile of dead, flattened treematerial with incoherent words on it.

Why should he agree to a meeting to have his a** handed over to him?
Obviously, he would never come to meet a person who could pick up his theories, roll them into a ball and put them where you would need an experienced plumber and some good flashlights, because the sun never shines at that place! (And I am not speaking about that town in that valley, you know?).


No, his mission was accomplished: "book" mentioned as often as possible, critic denounced as a bad, bad scientist and then the priceless (and useless) offer to meet that scientist, so that his reputation is clean on the outside. Remember: people tend to forget far faster than the average goldfish, if it was in the MSM.
edit on 16-5-2014 by ManFromEurope because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 23 2014 @ 05:30 PM
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He should agree because he agreed. George Noory stated in e-mail that Mike had agreed to a debate. He has apparently backed out. The very least that should happen is that I should have the right to address Mike's accusations on-air, as promised.



posted on May, 25 2014 @ 03:04 PM
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a reply to: astrostu

Welcome to ATS Dr.Robbins!!!

Maybe you could share some of the material you were going to debate with, if it's not too much trouble!!!
I'm sure we'd all love to hear your side of the story!!!


Peace Astro!!!



posted on May, 25 2014 @ 03:08 PM
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U guys are kidding right?

Do any of you think that Noory has the testicular fortitude to moderate a debate like that?



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 01:11 AM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: astrostu

Welcome to ATS Dr.Robbins!!!

Maybe you could share some of the material you were going to debate with, if it's not too much trouble!!!
I'm sure we'd all love to hear your side of the story!!!


Peace Astro!!!


Thankee. My goal in such a debate would have been to seem like the more rational one and to put in as many one-liners that show Mike is wrong as possible. For example, he maintains that pareidolia is a made-up thing that doesn't exist (he needs that to be true since the majority of his work is based on it). My one-liner would be, "Well, what do you call it when people see dogs in clouds, smiley faces in everything, and Jesus in toast and wood knots?"

Really, since it'd be impossible for me to really convince him (or Noory) that Mike is wrong, the point is to concentrate on convincing the fence-sitters to think twice, and for me to come off as not an ass, unlike Mike (if you've ever read any of his stuff, you know what I mean there).



posted on May, 26 2014 @ 01:11 AM
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originally posted by: solarstorm
U guys are kidding right?

Do any of you think that Noory has the testicular fortitude to moderate a debate like that?


I don't know how good of a job he'd do, but once you agree to do something, you should do it, not stop responding to my e-mails.



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 12:36 AM
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I would suggest you not lower yourself by debating him. You will only serve to elevate his reputation by association, and he will dim yours. If you haven't seen him in action in the comment section of his YouTube videos, check it out and any desire to have discussion with him will whither quickly.

Who knows what happened to him, or why he is so afraid and angry. Just stay away.
edit on 2-6-2014 by Leonidas because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 2 2014 @ 01:45 AM
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a reply to: Leonidas

Trust me, I'm very familiar with his "debate" style.





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