US DEA doing drug busts I the UK!

a reply to: NavyDoc

Yup. It at least gives me sympathy to the common US citizen that has to live under this police state.

If they had brought controlled substances on there person into the USA or conducted the deals while in the US I would understand. But to demand a arrest for something they did while not i the USA? Ridiculous.

a reply to: crazyewok

My apologizes if it came off as a Anti US rant but you would be pretty pissed too if UK cops were arresting US citizens for breaking UK laws when they never even went to the UK.

Fair enough on that and I would be. Furious. In fact, if Chinese police actually showed up to PATROL my STREETS.....as your neighbors are allowing to be done on the streets of Paris, France? I'd be more than mad..I might be moved to open acts of resistance.

I have to say though...If the British were over here, arresting Americans for violations of Her Majesty's laws? I'd want some HEADS alright but they'd be heads in Washington for EVER allowing outside law enforcement to even have arrest power on US soil. I wouldn't blame the British whom we'd have invited and are doing what they were told they were allowed to do.

Those who told them that? Now.....that is who I'd reserve true rage for. Plenty of it.

a reply to: Wrabbit2000

I agree the DEA agents are just doing there job. Its the monkeys in suites that sit in parliament and congress that are the issue. USA should not be enforcing it will on its allies and its allies should not be given in so easily.

For the record I have no Issue with UK citizens that have been arrested or even executed for crimes committed while abroad.

a reply to: crazyewok

No argument there.

It was a year or more ago that another member on here had asked me in a private but perfectly serious question. How likely did I think it would be that American agents could do something about violations of law in New Zealand. I never asked details of what laws of course, figuring some mysteries are better left that way. I don't think he much liked the answer that it was near 100% for odds if the crime was federal and serious enough.

When he asked how far or long it would be for Americans to do something (he was kinda worrying me by then) I helpfully asked where the local US Embassy was for distance? Err... I don't recall chatting much after that. lol....

Countries really ought to mind their own a whole lot more than they do. NO question. The DEA has plenty to do here, when their own Government isn't busy invalidating the laws they are still ordered to enforce in the sickest catch-22 of stupidity I've ever seen.

originally posted by: Wrabbit2000
a reply to: crazyewok

No argument there.

It was a year or more ago that another member on here had asked me in a private but perfectly serious question. How likely did I think it would be that American agents could do something about violations of law in New Zealand. I never asked details of what laws of course, figuring some mysteries are better left that way. I don't think he much liked the answer that it was near 100% for odds if the crime was federal and serious enough.

When he asked how far or long it would be for Americans to do something (he was kinda worrying me by then) I helpfully asked where the local US Embassy was for distance? Err... I don't recall chatting much after that. lol....

Countries really ought to mind their own a whole lot more than they do. NO question. The DEA has plenty to do here, when their own Government isn't busy invalidating the laws they are still ordered to enforce in the sickest catch-22 of stupidity I've ever seen.

Yup it has to be frustrating your end to see US tax dollars wasted to see US laws enforce abroad.
DEA should be breaking up gangs and dangerous drug rings in the USA protecting you and your family not harassing people abroad.
How many million are being spent on this extradition? How many agents time and effort is going on it?
Thats police time and money wasted when they should be cracking down on the kinda scum that cause so much violence in the USA.

Thanks for the new perspective as yes it got to be annoying for you guys to see your resources used in such a way.

a reply to: crazyewok

Because the US Government and associated agencies think they run the entire world.

The way our politicians and agencies here in the UK bow and scrape to American whims, it's hardly surprising America pushes it's luck more and more..we've basically given them unwritten authority to do what the hell they like.

Frankly, it sometimes makes me wonder what dodgy pictures and info the CIA have on most of our politicans.

originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: crazyewok

Because the US Government and associated agencies think they run the entire world.

The way our politicians and agencies here in the UK bow and scrape to American whims, it's hardly surprising America pushes it's luck more and more..we've basically given them unwritten authority to do what the hell they like.

Frankly, it sometimes makes me wonder what dodgy pictures and info the CIA have on most of our politicans.

No doubt the NSA has dug up a number of porn records.

Plus money, no doubt the USA has threatened business interests for failing to toe the line. USA could very easy cause a nasty incident on the London stocks.

We get the same # just worse here in Canada.......I know someone who owns a cannery that caters to sports fishermen....
The freaking Homeland Security was up here demanding his co operation and compliance to their wishes not long ago....
The DEA is constantly running helos and sending agents to check out the pot growers ........
I say Yanqui go home....tend your own prison system, and leave ours alone....

a reply to: michaelmcclen
You sir work in the best industry, that's a personal view. Send some freeview to Essex thanks

originally posted by: stirling
We get the same # just worse here in Canada.......I know someone who owns a cannery that caters to sports fishermen....
The freaking Homeland Security was up here demanding his co operation and compliance to their wishes not long ago....
The DEA is constantly running helos and sending agents to check out the pot growers ........
I say Yanqui go home....tend your own prison system, and leave ours alone....

Yeah you guys dont even have the security of 4000 miles of ocean to separate you......you poor things still you got revenge by giving them justin beiber!

a reply to: crazyewok

A clear example of imperialism, We rule all!

originally posted by: LDragonFire
a reply to: crazyewok

A clear example of imperialism, We rule all!

Just remember Empires have a nasty habit of collapsing.

a reply to: crazyewok

As a resident of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, I want to make it clear that I give no permission for the US criminal justice system to act within the borders of my country, or to act upon citizens of this country.

This nation is sovereign, and is not for the United States to police. Continued inability on the part of the US government to recognise that and wind in its neck, will result in its law enforcement personnel on British soil being sent home one bloody ounce at a time.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: crazyewok

As a resident of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, I want to make it clear that I give no permission for the US criminal justice system to act within the borders of my country, or to act upon citizens of this country.

This nation is sovereign, and is not for the United States to police. Continued inability on the part of the US government to recognise that and wind in its neck, will result in its law enforcement personnel on British soil being sent home one bloody ounce at a time.

Here here

Im writing up a letter to my MP in protest too.

It abhorrent. And no other EU country signed there rights away to the USA like this.

I was born in the UK, I live in the UK I live under UK law not USA.

Looks like the USA got its way....

Disgusting.

The DEA is all over Central and South America, they are also involved in Afghanistan and many other places in the world. The "War on Drugs" has essentially given them the power to go other countries and behave like mercenaries.

With all the US alphabet agencies doing covert and not so covert things around the world, it is obvious why the rest of the world feels the US is trying to police the world.

I can only hope as a result of this, the rest of the world will protest the abuse of power that the US continues to project all over the world.

originally posted by: jrod
The DEA is all over Central and South America, they are also involved in Afghanistan and many other places in the world. The "War on Drugs" has essentially given them the power to go other countries and behave like mercenaries.

With all the US alphabet agencies doing covert and not so covert things around the world, it is obvious why the rest of the world feels the US is trying to police the world.

I can only hope as a result of this, the rest of the world will protest the abuse of power that the US continues to project all over the world.

Yup though instead of mercenaries I would call the rogue agents.

a reply to: crazyewok

Not only was he providing chemicals for meth production he is also a child molester.

Your welcome.

originally posted by: thesaneone

Not only was he providing chemicals for meth production

Was he in the USA while he did? NO Therefore how can he have broke US laws?

How can he break US law when he is in another sovereign country!

So what if he was supplying chemical for US meth production? That the US problem, you should of just seized his parcels as they entered into the country and went after the buyers.

originally posted by: thesaneone
he is also a child molester.

Again he should stand trial IN THE UK!

originally posted by: thesaneone
Your welcome.

So the guy is in trouble for red phosphorous which can be used as a catalyst in the synthesis of methamphetamine as well as many other legitimize chemical processes. Does this now mean that anyone who purchases large amounts of an acid, base, or solvent is now a meth cook suspect?

Since those charges do not make the guy sound like a big enough demon, they went ahead an accuse him of being a child molester and that justifies the DEA behaving like the world police. I really do not know the details of this case, but one would think if those charges were warranted, interpol would have gotten involved.