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3 Months Since Legalizing Marijuana, Here's What Colorado Looks Like

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posted on May, 16 2014 @ 03:25 PM
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originally posted by: 3u40r15m
Too all you potheads that want the whole world to get on board with your crap... If you have teenage kids, encourage them to smoke pot since it's so great. I bet the only ones who will are the bums who smoke with their kids already. The parents who think they are "cool". You got the mentality of a 12 year old that wants to fit in.

If you smoke, smoke, but shut up about it. Get your 215 and buy weed at the supply stores. That's as far as it should go.


What the heck is this? Are you mad that people want to legalize this plant or something? Why are you so upset that people feel passionate about something that you don't care about? Were the remarks about potheads smoking with their children necessary? Why the comparison to an immature tween?

Why should we just smoke and shutup about it? We are supposed to be ok with the fact that we smoke and can be thrown in jail for being caught? Or are we just supposed to smoke and shutup about it AFTER it is legalized?




posted on May, 16 2014 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: Specimen
Now all the Black Project and top secret officials should weaponize the weed, using it as a biological weapon to give their enemies the munchies, and persuade the enemy nation to surrender with Twinkies.


Hah! This might actually have some use! Assuming they use an indica and not a sativa, they could crop dust enemy troops, then start blasting them with propoganda of love and peace. "Come join us, it feels good over here".... Hahah



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 03:32 PM
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originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: semperfortis

Alright, well let's remove the propaganda from this article shall we?


On Tuesday, Dr. Michael Distefano testified that Colorado Children’s Hospital has treated seven juveniles for acute illnesses stemming from ingesting edible forms of marijuana since the law went into effect.


This is basically impossible, I'm sorry. This is not the fault of the product, but the fault of who made it.

Nobody tries to ban alcohol when kids over drink do they? Scientifically speaking you'd have to consume your body weight in pot before you could OD or something 'acute' other than respiratory issues from smoke inhalation. The other issues we have are how these plants are grown, what fertilizer they use, process etc.


And, on Monday night, before Distefano appeared before the House Committee on Health, Insurance, and Environment on two bills to rein in recreational marijuana, a mother of three from Denver on the phone with a 911 operator about the hallucinations being experienced by her husband was killed when he shot her in the head.


This is just nonsense, pure and simple. There are 0 confirmed cases of MJ causing psychosis in people for murder, outside of tainted strains. Which is UNLIKELY to occur if it was purchased from a legal grow operation.

So I'm very sorry, but this article is FEAR MONGERING and bad science rolled into a lovely report.

Edit To Add; I am in no way saying that MJ does not effect developing brains. There is enough research to support the idea that consuming active THC can have adverse effects on mental development.

~Tenth


OK, there are studies that show that high THC strains of natural MJ (eg: Skunk) cause psychosis.

Also there is a long hstorical association between MJ and Schizophrenia in post teen males.

I have also personally withnessed inexperienced users of MJ who required hospitalization after smoking. In all cases, the symptoms were unpleasant hallucinations, extreme paleness, sweating and nausea (probably indicating a low blood pressure condition along with intoxication).

MJ does cause verifiable medical issues. Please review this link as one voice amid the many identifying that MJ is not benign.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Those are all isolated cases with people who are pre-disposed to mental illness such as Schizophrenia.

I've worked in this industry for over a decade as a grower in the Medical Industry.

There is NO doubt that ANY kind of mind altering substance is bad for you while your brain is developing.

Period.

What's worse however is that the vast majority of studies that conclude MJ is adversely effecting you, are based on smoking the thing. Which is the least effective method of delivering the proper medicinal ingredients for treatment.

No doubt like anything, some people will have adverse effects, but it is in no way a justified reason to keep this illegal and classified as Schedule 1.

~Tenth



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 03:42 PM
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Too all you potheads that want the whole world to get on board with your crap... If you have teenage kids, encourage them to smoke pot since it's so great. I bet the only ones who will are the bums who smoke with their kids already. The parents who think they are "cool". You got the mentality of a 12 year old that wants to fit in.

If you smoke, smoke, but shut up about it. Get your 215 and buy weed at the supply stores. That's as far as it should go.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 03:44 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Theres nothing in that link that says MJ causes psychosis...


read your links before posting people!!

Geezus...




posted on May, 16 2014 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: 3u40r15m

You've missed the point entirely if you think that's all this is, just pot heads wanting to smoke with kids.

Please do some research about the topic. We aren't discussing anything you've stated.

~Tenth



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: semperfortis
a reply to: tothetenthpower



Why do you consider my link propaganda and not yours?



Because it supports your side?





If a man kills his wife after eating a baked potato, it might not be entirely valid to blame the potato. There's a chance that there were other factors at play.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 04:14 PM
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originally posted by: sbreckley
a reply to: mahatche

First of all, my saying something is 'bad' is a speech pattern thing. It does not insinuate that someone is 'bad' for doing something.

If it would make things easier for you, just replace 'bad' for 'bad for you'.

Also, I couldn't disagree more with you regarding being 'stuck in a room' with a pot head or drunk. This is a complete generalization that every person who is drunk or high acts the same. Individuals act individually.


Most of what we do is bad for us. Our diet kills us too, but I don't need you to decide what I eat, or how much sugar I can have. I should exercise more, but you shouldn't make it the law that I do. Let people live their life. It's great that you have caring instincts, but we don't need social nannies.

I'll give you that Individuals act individually, but my experience in life tells me the probabilities are high. Some stereotypes exist for a reason. The drunken idiot has a long standing acknowledgement in history. It's not something I just made up.

Either way my locked in a room scenario was meant to suggest a completely gone stoner, and a completly wasted drunk. If we are talking about what's bad for you, lets go to the scenario where weed and alcohol become bad. casual social drinking/smoking isn't the problem, it's the heavy users right? So compare the heavy users.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 04:17 PM
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Man I'm really bummed... Stupid ipad... Maybe I'll get back around to rewriting this original message, but!

People are ignoring the facts of the multifaceted nature of this substance.



There are 20,000 strains of cannabis 50 abstraction processes and 85 components.


An overwhelming majority (if not ALL) of the stories related in this forum, about people having "crazy" behavior is directly tied to indica. THC is a psychotropic for goodness sakes! Its gonna make your mind feel a lil weird!!!!

That's not to say delta 8 and 9 THC dont have positive effects. Some find it much more appealing than Xanax or other anti-anxiety medications, a mild sedative, the list goes on. And on and on and on, helps alleviate nausea, etc...

But no one has even bothered to touch on all the positive effects high CBD:low THC refinements have made life live able for hundreds, if not thousands of children with epilepsy and other seizures?

I bring this up because of a few comments coming out of florida, where the population may be mislead into voting for the approval of sativa only strains, or CBD only! Dont be fooled floridians, THC is just as medically viable as CBD and without the entirety of the essential oils from the plant(CBD AND THC)

I guess i feel like tis forum is generalizing marijuana as a gun. There are so many different calibers of guns, how can you generalize calling a gun a gun? Is it a 105mm howitzer or a 10 pump Daisy BB-Gun? Is it a shotgun or a pistol?



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

I was exaggerating to make a point, the study I read did say something along the lines of in some extreme cases, it had killed cancer cells. But to the pro-cannabis Facebook hippies that means cannabis is the ultimate cure. I don't need to provide links, if you are incapable of using Google that isn't my fault.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut



I have also personally withnessed inexperienced users of MJ who required hospitalization after smoking. In all cases, the symptoms were unpleasant hallucinations, extreme paleness, sweating and nausea (probably indicating a low blood pressure condition along with intoxication).


probably just symptoms of a panic attack.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: GoShredAK

Exactly!!

I've personally experienced a few cases where someone simply had far too much for their tolerance level, and thought they were going to die because of extreme panic attacks...

The fact is its not for everyone... it effects everyone differently, but all these people who are claiming it causes mental illness and psychosis... its complete nonsense




posted on May, 16 2014 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: Akragon

The paranoia and panic isn't generated by the plant or its effects...it is generated by the conscious and unconscious knowledge that if you are caught using the plant, the Government can and often will completely ruin your life...being arrested and jailed, then having your future blighted by a backwards and ridiculous legal attitude will cause one hell of a panic attack...


edit on 16-5-2014 by MysterX because: typo



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: 3u40r15m

Its that mentality that keeps people ignorant of the truth. When you keep things from a child it only makes them want it more. If you took the time to educate them on why maybe its not a good idea and use the truth and not scare tactics and smoke up the arse then you wouldn't have to worry so much.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: GoShredAK

Exactly!!

I've personally experienced a few cases where someone simply had far too much for their tolerance level, and thought they were going to die because of extreme panic attacks...

The fact is its not for everyone... it effects everyone differently, but all these people who are claiming it causes mental illness and psychosis... its complete nonsense



Thank You!

I've also experienced cases where someone either had a low tolerance and or was already prone to high anxiety, and the mj would trigger really bad anxiety and sometimes panic attacks.

having lived with full on panic disorder I know how horrible and serious a panic attack can be.
edit on 16-5-2014 by GoShredAK because: oops



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: MysterX

Well... that's not entirely true...

THC in high doses does cause panic attacks in some people... and extreme anxiety...

In many cases people actually avoid it completely after their very first experience... which have nothing to do with the legal issues of it...

I live in Canada, and we're mostly pretty laid back on the whole MJ issue...

As I've said, its not for everyone... it affects everyone differently... but theres a simple solution

IF you don't like it... stay away from it.... Don't ban it from public use because it has some excellent benefits for a lot of people.... and its Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better then taking a pill or chemical prescribed by a doctor in most cases




posted on May, 16 2014 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: tothetenthpower

all they have done is put another snake in the grass where the children play.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: spirited75

Thus the reasons for the signs "keep off the grass"

Its a parents responsibility to explain the issues with things like MJ, alcohol, tobacco, sex, and everything else....

IF anything blame the parents not the substance...




posted on May, 16 2014 @ 04:44 PM
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After all the evidence presented in this thread regarding mental illness and MJ use, here is a quote from a real expert doesn't have bias. In fact he was fired for speaking the truth:


There has been much media concern over the increase in schizophrenia that cannabis is supposed to be causing yet this 20-fold increase in use has not been accompanied by an increase in either schizophrenia of psychosis, whereas the 2 fold increase in alcohol intake has lead to death rates from liver disease increasing year on year [Leon and McCambridge 2006 Lancet] so that within a decade, liver deaths will outnumber deaths from heart disease so becoming the biggest killer in the UK .


And his qualifications:

David John Nutt (born 16 April 1951) DM FRCP FRCPsych FMedSci is a British psychiatrist and neuropsychopharmacologist specialising in the research of drugs that affect the brain and conditions such as addiction, anxiety and sleep.[3] He was until 2009 a professor at the University of Bristol heading their Psychopharmacology Unit.[4] Since then he has been the Edmond J Safra chair in Neuropsychopharmacology at Imperial College, London.[5] Nutt was a member of the Committee on Safety of Medicines, and was President of the European College of Neuropsychopharmacology.[6][7][8]




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