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originally posted by: cuckooold
originally posted by: douglas5
a reply to: cuckooold
I was born in the U.S, but do not consider myself an American (despite having NYC Jewish parents). Culturally I am Australian - I sound Australian, and regardless of personal politics or belief, there is a definite cultural aspect to being an Aussie. In my opinion it is the same with being Jewish.
thanks for your oh-so cogent ramblings (not).
Why exactly were the Jewish people kicked out of so many countries? I doubt it was because they considered themselves culturally part of a nation.
Identity is multi tiered - there are many factors that make up a person's identity. I'm glad that you are happy to die for the country of your birth. I wish you every success in achieving your aims. I personally find your statement naive and overly simplistic. Why someone would state that they are willing to die for the country of their birth, without giving any reason for doing so is at best a really dumb thing to say. If one wishes to read further into this, there seems a blind willingness to accept anything 'your country' may throw at you, in a blind nationalistic jingoistic fervour. If you were born in Germany in 1920, or Iraq in the last 40 years would you feel the same desire to die for your country? ade a statemeAs it stands you've mnt accusing me of being a mongrel dog, somehow put yourself on a pedestal as being better than me, and offered no reasons whatsoever for anything you have said.
Good luck with all that. I'd personally prefer to think things through and come to my own conclusions, 'mongrel dog' and all, rather than come across in an almost fascist manner, almost shouting how you will 'die for your country' (cue patriotic music and Tom Cruise gazing off into the sunset scene), and giving all the appearance of an ignoramus who has no idea what they are talking about.
How can you be born in AMERICA to AMERICAN parents and think of yourself as Australian /Jewish duu
You are American but with the duel get out clause
BUT you would leg it quicker than a rat up a drain pipe if asked to give your life for the country of birth
Commoth the hour commeth the man
If you were born in Germany in 1920, or Iraq in the last 40 years would you feel the same desire to die for your country?
I should not have accused you of being a mongeral dog
they are good dog's and loyal
will keep on dukeing it out until the last man is standing, and wondering where everyone went, and why he has no one at all, of either side, left to rule over.