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No....and I'll use that line the next time a christian claims God could not have sent an Arab prophet. In the meantime, answer to the point...if God being husband is simply symbolic....why cant the idea of God being ''father'' also be as symbolic..i.e...God was a symbolic ''father'' to Jesus.
originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
the problem is that God is described in the bible as BOTH a father and a husband. Its obvious that it was symbolic language designating closeness to God. Jesus and Adam being ''sons'' was just as symbolic. Jesus ''sonship'' was as a title, it did not make him God or a part of God.
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: sk0rpi0n
Wouldn't a husband be equal to his wife?
Thus Making God equal with us?
Let me ask you,
Is there anything impossible with God?
originally posted by: WarminIndy
Which means that Jesus is more than a prophet.
Christ is the head, there are no successors.
I can pray for you, because God commands me to.
Manifest means that Jesus was God manifest in the flesh, because the flesh is incarnate. God is a spirit, but Jesus in the incarnate flesh of God, because the spirit manifested as flesh. There is nothing impossible with God, wouldn't you agree?
Why dont you bring this up with your fellow christian, user ''warminindy''? Ok wait, I'll ask him/her.............. Hey warminindy....what do you think of christians calling Moses a murdering sex slaver? Jews and Muslims revere him...but it seems Christians openly insult him. Care to comment?
originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: sk0rpi0n
You again avoided answering .....
You said I lied about Moses being a murderer and a sex slaver.
I gave the scripture quotes showing he was indeed a mass murdering sex slaver.
originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
No....and I'll use that line the next time a christian claims God could not have sent an Arab prophet. In the meantime, answer to the point...if God being husband is simply symbolic....why cant the idea of God being ''father'' also be as symbolic..i.e...God was a symbolic ''father'' to Jesus.
originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
the problem is that God is described in the bible as BOTH a father and a husband. Its obvious that it was symbolic language designating closeness to God. Jesus and Adam being ''sons'' was just as symbolic. Jesus ''sonship'' was as a title, it did not make him God or a part of God.
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: sk0rpi0n
Wouldn't a husband be equal to his wife?
Thus Making God equal with us?
Let me ask you,
Is there anything impossible with God?
originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
Why dont you bring this up with your fellow christian, user ''warminindy''? Ok wait, I'll ask him/her.............. Hey warminindy....what do you think of christians calling Moses a murdering sex slaver? Jews and Muslims revere him...but it seems Christians openly insult him. Care to comment?
originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: sk0rpi0n
You again avoided answering .....
You said I lied about Moses being a murderer and a sex slaver.
I gave the scripture quotes showing he was indeed a mass murdering sex slaver.
originally posted by: maes2
originally posted by: WarminIndy
Which means that Jesus is more than a prophet.
Of course there is a rank higher than simple prophecy. This is another forgotten truth.
Prophet is mentioned by the Hebrew word נָּבִ֑יא (Nabi) Abram was first a Nabi (prophet) then His rank changed to נשיא (Nasiy) and then name of Abram changed to Abraham and he became a Nasiy While he was already a (Nabi) prophet.
The letter heth which is added to the name of Abraham is a sign of five glory names from Ishmael. Torah says that twelve Nasiy will be born by Ishmael through Bmadmad. Nasiy like Abraham. However those twelve persons are not Nabi.
Christ is the head, there are no successors.
Jesus himself says that he gave the key to Saint Peter. And again you say there were no successors. Ok forget it. Even most of muslims believe so. It seems humanity knows that when he manufactures something He should send the guidance book and still it is not enough. He sends professional persons who know well how to use that thing and the guidance book. But God of Christians and Muslims does not know ! What kind of God this is. I do not worship such ignorant God.
I can pray for you, because God commands me to.
Thank you. It is so kind of you who pray for sinful persons. But the best pray is that we want that Jesus returns sooner so that oppression ends and the truths among divine books get revealed. No one can disagree with Jesus.
Manifest means that Jesus was God manifest in the flesh, because the flesh is incarnate. God is a spirit, but Jesus in the incarnate flesh of God, because the spirit manifested as flesh. There is nothing impossible with God, wouldn't you agree?
Manifestation is possible. We are all manifestations of God. But perfect humans are the best manifestations. 3d sun is not in the mirror but a 2d image of sun can be seen in the mirror.
a reply to: WarminIndy
Jesus asked Peter "whom do you say that I AM?" Jesus asked three times, the third time, Peter answered, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God". To which Jesus responds "No man revealed this to you, but heaven revealed it to you, therefore upon THIS Rock, will I build my church". Not Peter, but Peter's testimony, "thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God".
Man doesn't reveal this, and if it hasn't been revealed to you, then you haven't met God yet, to understand. I pray that you one day understand this. Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God. And that's the key.
originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
Why dont you bring this up with your fellow christian,
originally posted by: mrphilosophias
I'll give this an Amen!
You are missing a step.
He wants to forgive us of our sins, but in order to do that don't we first need to recognize our guilt before God, and our need for His forgiveness?
A lot of Christians do.
Why do not you Christians pray that Jesus returns !
as usual, more Robert Morey-esque nonsense. Jews themselves admit Islam is monotheistic...but will never say the same about christianity. Besides some Rabbis say its technically okay for Jews to pray inside a mosque...but never in a church. Some Jews even buy halal if kosher isn't available. Jews and Muslims even marched together to protest proposed bans on ritual slaughter. The Jews greatest philosopher Maimonedes declared Islam as purely monotheistic. That by itself destroys the claims and allegations made against Islam by desperate polytheistic christians, who are obviously....jealous of Jewish approval of Islams monotheism. You don't have to be so grumpy about it, all you have to do is reject the idea of a man-god and trinity. Just believe there is One God who is without form and that Jesus is only a man and an agent of God (as prophet/servant/messiah). Then you can call yourself a monotheist....and the best part is you can still call yourself a Christian, as long as you follow Jesus.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
Why dont you bring this up with your fellow christian,
explain how worship of a meteorite and walking circles around a pagan cube building with Hubals crescent on top of it is 'monotheistic'.
Then God could have taken on the form of a man, but DIDN'T. Also, the hindus called, they want their ideas back. Hindus also believe God became a human called Krishna. And they also believe in a trinity. It might explain why many hindu homes have images of Jesus next to their gods. I've also noticed hindus don't have a problem with accepting Jesus as one of the many avatars of God...because hinduism has the concept of God becoming man. And hindus also worship men as God. So christianity and hinduism can be placed in the same basket. Actually don't respond to this post, I'll make a separate thread for this later, God willing.
originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
No....and I'll use that line the next time a christian claims God could not have sent an Arab prophet. In the meantime, answer to the point...if God being husband is simply symbolic....why cant the idea of God being ''father'' also be as symbolic..i.e...God was a symbolic ''father'' to Jesus.
originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
the problem is that God is described in the bible as BOTH a father and a husband. Its obvious that it was symbolic language designating closeness to God. Jesus and Adam being ''sons'' was just as symbolic. Jesus ''sonship'' was as a title, it did not make him God or a part of God.
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: sk0rpi0n
Wouldn't a husband be equal to his wife?
Thus Making God equal with us?
Let me ask you,
Is there anything impossible with God?
Of course God could, but God DIDN'T.
Would you describe Moses as a ''murderer'' and ''sex slaver'' like flyers fan? If not, why?
originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
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originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: sk0rpi0n
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FlyersFan has not insulted Moses, what's the problem?
So Christians can bad mouth revered prophets just because they weren't messiah?
Moses wasn't the messiah.
Moses for Jews. Jesus for Christans. Mohammad for Muslims. And we all need to respect all the other prophets of God, while following the prophet sent to our community.
you guys talk about how much you respect Moses and yet you don't even keep Passover, .
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originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
as usual, more Robert Morey-esque nonsense.
Jews themselves admit Islam is monotheistic...
originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
Would you describe Moses as a ''murderer'' and ''sex slaver'' like flyers fan?
So Christians can bad mouth revered prophets just because they weren't messiah?
And we all need to respect all the other prophets of God, while following the prophet sent to our community.
I think that most of the Second Coming hype comes from Dispensationalism, which I see as the product of a Zionist plot to trick Christians into accepting their regime in Palestine.
Does Jesus return to fix anything from Chiristian point of view Or his return is Just an end for punishment from Chiristian point of view.
35“Be dressed for service and keep your lamps burning, 36as though you were waiting for your master to return from the wedding feast. Then you will be ready to open the door and let him in the moment he arrives and knocks. 37The servants who are ready and waiting for his return will be rewarded. I tell you the truth, he himself will seat them, put on an apron, and serve them as they sit and eat! 38He may come in the middle of the night or just before dawn.d But whenever he comes, he will reward the servants who are ready. Luke 12-35
15“The day is coming when you will see what Daniel the prophet spoke about—the sacrilegious object that causes desecrationd standing in the Holy Place.” (Reader, pay attention!) 16“Then those in Judea must flee to the hills. 17A person out on the deck of a roof must not go down into the house to pack. 18A person out in the field must not return even to get a coat. 19How terrible it will be for pregnant women and for nursing mothers in those days. 20And pray that your flight will not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For there will be greater anguish than at any time since the world began. And it will never be so great again. 22In fact, unless that time of calamity is shortened, not a single person will survive. But it will be shortened for the sake of God’s chosen ones. 23“Then if anyone tells you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah,’ or ‘There he is,’ don’t believe it. 24For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones. 25See, I have warned you about this ahead of time. 26“So if someone tells you, ‘Look, the Messiah is out in the desert,’ don’t bother to go and look. Or, ‘Look, he is hiding here,’ don’t believe it! 27For as the lightning flashes in the east and shines to the west, so it will be when the Son of Mane comes. 28Just as the gathering of vultures shows there is a carcass nearby, so these signs indicate that the end is near.f 29“Immediately after the anguish of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will give no light, the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.g 30And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth. And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.h 31And he will send out his angels with the mighty blast of a trumpet, and they will gather his chosen ones from all over the worldi—from the farthest ends of the earth and heaven. -Matthew 24
But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. 37 As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of man. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, 39 and they did not know until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of man. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming -Matthew 24:36
8Refrain from anger and turn from wrath; do not fret—it leads only to evil. 9 For those who are evil will be destroyed, but those who hope in the Lord will inherit the land. 10 A little while, and the wicked will be no more; though you look for them, they will not be found. 11 But the meek will inherit the land and enjoy peace and prosperity. 12 The wicked plot against the righteous and gnash their teeth at them; 13 but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming. -Psalm 37
Do not fret because of those who are evil or be envious of those who do wrong; 2for like the grass they will soon wither, like green plants they will soon die away. 3Trust in the Lord and do good; dwell in the land and enjoy safe pasture. 4Take delight in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart.
originally posted by: sk0rpi0n
I'll make a separate thread for this later,