Want to know whats in the Patriot Act 2?

Section 105: Law Enforcement Use of FISA Information.

50 U.S.C. § 1806(b) currently prohibits the disclosure of information "for law enforcement purposes" unless the disclosure includes a statement that the information cannot be used in a criminal proceeding without the Attorney General's advance authorization. This provision would amend § 1806(b) to give federal investigators and prosecutors greater flexibility to use FISA-obtained information. Specifically, it would eliminate the requirement that the Attorney General personally approve the use of such information in the criminal context, and would substitute a requirement that such use be approved by the Attorney General, the Deputy Attorney General, the Associate Attorney General, or an Assistant Attorney General designated by the Attorney General.

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Originally posted by moxyone


Is that Soylent, as in Soylent Green?

friggin hilarious.

Originally posted by worldwatcher
i can only hope that this one doesn't get rushed through congress and members actually take the time to read it. We're all going to be screwed if that thing passes.

(1) 18 U.S.C. § 2709--Providing FBI access, in connection with investigations of international terrorism or espionage, to certain electronic communication transactional records maintained by communication service providers.

(2) Section 625(a)-(b) of the Fair Credit Reporting Act (15 U.S.C. § 168 Iu(a)(b))--Providing FBI access, in connection with investigations of international terrorism or espionage, to certain consumer information maintained by consumer reporting agencies.

(3) Section 626 of the Fair Credit Reporting Act (15 U.S.C. § 1681v)--Providing access to consumer reports and other consumer information maintained by consumer reporting agencies, where needed by government agencies authorized to investigate or carry out intelligence or analysis activities related to international terrorism.

(4) Section 1114(a)(5) of the Right to Financial Privacy Act (12 U.S.C. § 3414(a)(5))--Providing FBI access, in connection with investigations of international terrorism or espionage, to financial records maintained by financial institutions.

(5) Section 802(a) of the National Security Act of 1947 (50 U.S.C. § 436(a))--Providing access by authorized investigative agencies to financial records and information, consumer reports, and travel records in relation to a person having access to classified information, based on indications that the person has disclosed or may disclose classified information to a foreign power.

This section would amend 18 U.S.C. § 3142(e) to presumptively deny release to persons charged with crimes listed in 18 U.S.C. § 2332b(g)(5)(B), which contains a standard list of offenses that are likely to be committed by terrorists. This presumption is warranted because of the unparalleled magnitude of the danger to the United States and its people posed by acts of terrorism, and because terrorism is typically engaged in by groups -- many with international connections -- that are often in a position to help their members flee or go into hiding.

Originally posted by worldwatcher
i can only hope that this one doesn't get rushed through congress and members actually take the time to read it. We're all going to be screwed if that thing passes.

Originally posted by Corinthas
The last one was a complete farce, with various memebers being threatened by Ashcrof to vote for it etc.
Some "democracy"

Originally posted by titian
The bigger question is why didn't those members stand up and say "No!"? Is is because they are afraid of losing their privilege and status?

Originally posted by Amethyst

Either way you look at it we're screwed.

Originally posted by dgtempe
There is going to be a mass exodus from this country.

Every country in the world has experienced some terrorism. No other country has taken these drastic steps. Does anyone now believe we're thouroughly screwed?