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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
can't we have a new one??
Why are you asking me? LOL If you're curious about it, post it. If you go about it with CURIOSITY instead of from a defensive or antagonistic position, you will probably learn a LOT about people.
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
if one is a spiritual atheist I think a chaplain is justified, heck, who cares really?
Let the atheist have a Chaplin
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
I haven't seen a good reason not to..
originally posted by: Sremmos80
originally posted by: minusinfinity
originally posted by: Sremmos80
Ya I think this is overboard.
Why would atheist need a chaplin? What are they going to talk about??
Agree with you that if they feel that need, they can just go talk to the shrink.
I wonder what their insignia would be....
The insignia hmmm....maybe the inverted chaplain insignia.
Well each religion has their own, but i am pretty sure I know what you are getting at
Off topic, but when do they get the satanist chaplain?
originally posted by: FlyersFan
The atheists and the secular humanists can go to any of the Chaplains who are already in the military for any spiritual issues that may arise or counseling needs. They can also go to the military psychologists for the same.
Educationally, you must:
Possess a baccalaureate degree of not less than 120 semester hours.
Possess a graduate degree in theological or religious studies, plus have earned at least a total of 72 semester hours in graduate work in these fields of study.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
That would be the satanic chaplain...lol
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
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They note that when soldiers seek mental health counseling it is noted in their record and reported up the chain of command. But consultations with chaplains are confidential, making them a safe place to discuss the problems soldiers routinely face — loneliness, fear, anxiety and other personal issues.
This alone is a good reason to want to see a chaplain instead of a psychologist.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
What's to stop an atheist or a humanist from getting a Master of Divinity Degree?
originally posted by: FlyersFan
If a Satanist was to come to our office, we would have to make sure that his/her religious needs were met. That would include helping him/her find a satanic priest or a satanic group to help him/her get his/her worship in as he/she needed. Back then, that would be off post ... but nowadays there may be satanic priests serving in the military to draw from.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
So what would this atheist Chaplin provide, that the ones they have already do not provide?
“Humanism is a democratic and ethical life stance, which affirms that human beings have the right and responsibility to give meaning and shape to their own lives. It stands for the building of a more humane society through an ethic based on human and other natural values in the spirit of reason and free inquiry through human capabilities. It is not theistic, and it does not accept supernatural views of reality."
originally posted by: NavyDoc
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic
Again, as I said earlier, you present "atheist" as an untrue spin but the you present atheists outnumbering Buddhists and the like as evidence if need. Which is it? Do you switch from one to the other as convenient?