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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: beezzer
Esoteric sciences, the occult, whatever you want to call it, scares the snot out of me simply because there ARE things that go bump in the night.
If Satanism is an esoteric science or occult, then so is Christianity (which I believe it is). Where do you think Satan came from?
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
I guess next we will be doing human sacrifices again, and some nut job will be saying hurrah for diversity.
And I'm not ignorant when it come to satanism, my son practiced for years.
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
We have miley Cyrus, performing in London, on a giant blow up male organ, satanism at university, legalization of pedophilia, and beastility, legal in some countries,
Yea it's all good, everything is just a ok.
In spite of the huge amount of French literature discussing the Black Mass (Messe Noire) at the end of the 19th century and early 20th century, no set of written instructions for performing one, from any purported group of Satanists, turned up in writing until the 1960s, and appeared not in France, but in the United States. As can be seen from these first Black Masses and Satanic Masses appearing in the U.S., the creators drew heavily from occult novelists such as Dennis Wheatley and Joris-Karl Huysmans, and from non-fiction occult writers popular in the 1960s, such as H. T. F. Rhodes (who provided a title in his 1954 book The Satanic Mass), and Grillot de Givry (author of the popular illustrated book Witchcraft, Magic and Alchemy).
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UnderGetty
All those "facts" and no links to support any of them. Hmmm... Very telling.
originally posted by: the owlbear
Wasnt Harvard founded as a Divinity college with some secular classics classes mixed in? Do they still even have the divinity department?
This is all just the Weekly Standard trying to get their mostly Christian fan base worked up and protest the evils of post-secondary education.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UnderGetty
All those "facts" and no links to support any of them. Hmmm... Very telling.
Wikipedia on Black Mass
Black Mass
Did a ctrl+f and the word "rape" and no results found. But also this:
In spite of the huge amount of French literature discussing the Black Mass (Messe Noire) at the end of the 19th century and early 20th century, no set of written instructions for performing one, from any purported group of Satanists, turned up in writing until the 1960s, and appeared not in France, but in the United States. As can be seen from these first Black Masses and Satanic Masses appearing in the U.S., the creators drew heavily from occult novelists such as Dennis Wheatley and Joris-Karl Huysmans, and from non-fiction occult writers popular in the 1960s, such as H. T. F. Rhodes (who provided a title in his 1954 book The Satanic Mass), and Grillot de Givry (author of the popular illustrated book Witchcraft, Magic and Alchemy).
Faust is the protagonist of a classic German legend. He is a scholar who is highly successful yet dissatisfied with his life, so he makes a pact with the Devil, exchanging his soul for unlimited knowledge and worldly pleasures. The Faust legend has been the basis for many literary, artistic, cinematic, and musical works that have reinterpreted it through the ages. Faust and the adjective Faustian imply a situation in which an ambitious person surrenders moral integrity in order to achieve power and success for a delimited term.
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
this just gets better,
Those offended include Harvard University president Drew Faust, who called it “abhorrent”:
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How ironic.
en.wikipedia.org...
originally posted by: beezzer
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: beezzer
Esoteric sciences, the occult, whatever you want to call it, scares the snot out of me simply because there ARE things that go bump in the night.
If Satanism is an esoteric science or occult, then so is Christianity (which I believe it is). Where do you think Satan came from?
I have a much greater respect for the occult/esoteric sciences than many others might.
I guess that's why I don't monkey around in that area.
originally posted by: UnderGetty
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UnderGetty
All those "facts" and no links to support any of them. Hmmm... Very telling.
Wikipedia on Black Mass
Black Mass
Did a ctrl+f and the word "rape" and no results found. But also this:
In spite of the huge amount of French literature discussing the Black Mass (Messe Noire) at the end of the 19th century and early 20th century, no set of written instructions for performing one, from any purported group of Satanists, turned up in writing until the 1960s, and appeared not in France, but in the United States. As can be seen from these first Black Masses and Satanic Masses appearing in the U.S., the creators drew heavily from occult novelists such as Dennis Wheatley and Joris-Karl Huysmans, and from non-fiction occult writers popular in the 1960s, such as H. T. F. Rhodes (who provided a title in his 1954 book The Satanic Mass), and Grillot de Givry (author of the popular illustrated book Witchcraft, Magic and Alchemy).
Haha, and you provide wikipedia as a reference? LOL
I promise you I will not be publishing links to what I was referring to. If you're that serious about the true black mass then you will have to research it yourself. I'm not spoon feeding anyone on this subject, sorry.
NO other single device has been associated with Satanism as much as the black mass. To say that the most blasphemous of all religious ceremonies is nothing more than a literary invention is certainly a statement which needs qualifying - but nothing could be truer.
The popular concept of the black mass is thus: a defrocked priest stands before an altar consisting of a nude woman, her legs spread-eagled and vagina thrust open, each of her outstretched fists grasping a black candle made from the fat of unbaptized babies, and a chalice containing the urine of a prostitute (or blood) reposing on her belly. An inverted cross hangs above the altar, and triangular hosts of ergot-laden bread or black-stained turnip are methodically blessed as the priest dutifully slips them in and out of the altar-lady's labia. Then, we are told, an invocation to Satan and various demons is followed by an array of prayers and psalms chanted backwards or interspersed with obscenities... all performed within the confines of a "protective" pentagram drawn on the floow. If the Devil appears he is invariably in the form of a rather eager man wearing the head of a black goat upon his shoulders. Then follows a potpouri of flagellation, prayer-book burning, cunnilingus, fellatio, and general hindquarters kissing - all done to a background of ribald recitations from the Holy Bible, and audible expectorations on the cross! If a baby can be slaughtered during the ritual, so much the better; for as everyone knows, this is the favorite sport of the Satanist!
If this sounds repugnant, then the success of the reports of the black mass, in keeping the devout in church, is easy to understand. No "decent" person could fail to side with the inquisitors when told of these blasphemies. The propagandists of the church did their job well, informing the public at one time or another of the heresies and heinous acts of the Pagans, Cathars, Bogomils, Templars and others who, because of their dualistic philosophies and sometimes Satanic logic, had to be eradicated.
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Those offended include Harvard University president Drew Faust, who called it “abhorrent”
"Nevertheless, consistent with the University’s commitment to free expression, including expression that may deeply offend us, the decision to proceed is and will remain theirs. At the same time, we will vigorously protect the right of others to respond—and to address offensive expression with expression of their own."