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Holy Cow! Judge Orders Investigation Into Obama’s Fake Social Security Number

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posted on May, 14 2014 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: facedye
it seems anomalous when compared to how his vice president's tax returns are uploaded. the same procedure was not used on Obama's returns as they were on Biden's. to me, this is enough of a reason to dig deeper.


Hey, it isn't my fault you take frank discussion as "animosity". Relax.

You're inventing a reason to "dig deeper". You don't want to be taken as "nonsensical", yet you express incredulity as far as the banality of your concern. Yeah, the tax forms are different. Maybe has something to do with the different people that prepared them.

Part of the point in this is, all throughout the examples on that site, there are different methods and styles of obscuring presidential SSNs. Yet now, Barack Obama's tax return elicits this nonsensical concern.

118 tax returns on the page I linked. Not a single one of them reveals a person's SSN.

Your transparency is evident.



posted on May, 14 2014 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: MrPenny

Indeed MrPenny, I do hope transparency is what you desire. That, is my highest desire.

You will want to read TITLE 18 USC 241,242. TITLE 42 USC 1983, 1985, 1986. Etc etc etc.

Want to debate the real law, not the fiction of law the oligarchy has created?

I thought not.
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posted on May, 14 2014 @ 09:45 PM
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originally posted by: Not Authorized
a reply to: MrPenny

Indeed MrPenny, I do hope transparency is what you desire. That, is my highest desire.

You will want to read TITLE 18 USC 241,242. TITLE 42 USC 1983, 1985, 1986. Etc etc etc.

Want to debate the real law, not the fiction of law the oligarchy has created?

I thought not.


So, are those "real laws", or the "fiction of laws"? You probably should let me know so I don't get all misled and stuff.



posted on May, 14 2014 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: MrPenny

Statutes are for the government. Not the people.

So, if you work for the government? Then yep. It does.

Want the case law for that sir?

Oh, and in case you forgot. The legal system works like this on paper.

Guilty, into proven innocent. IE, presentments by grand jury to a criminal court. They can form at whim by the way, all they need is suspicion of wrong doing.
Innocent, until proven innocent. Only the people may bring charges. Not the state.


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posted on May, 14 2014 @ 10:02 PM
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originally posted by: Not Authorized
a reply to: MrPenny

Ah....ya fixed it. Ruined the whole joke.

Statues, are for the government. Not the people.

So, if you work for the government? Then yep.

Want the case law for that sir?


Statues are for museums. And pigeons...they're for pigeons too.. Not the microwave.

Case law for what now?

You must be from the government...you're so mysterious. It's kind of exciting.
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posted on May, 14 2014 @ 10:06 PM
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a reply to: MrPenny

A master of all knowledge, yet.. no ability to Google?

Hmmmm.

Intelligent Spambot?



posted on May, 14 2014 @ 10:27 PM
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originally posted by: Not Authorized
Intelligent Spambot?


Yeah, that's it. I'm a Turing Test.



posted on May, 14 2014 @ 10:53 PM
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a reply to: MrPenny

Interesting. Of that, I may have no doubt.



posted on May, 15 2014 @ 03:37 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

He isn't who he claims to be; that much is certain!

I saw that video; interesting, and he does look a LOT like that fellow!



posted on May, 15 2014 @ 05:46 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
0bama has provided many fictitious statements and lies.

How can anybody actually trust 0bama to provide a real tax return?

Only the IRS can "certify" a genuine tax return.

I would not trust anything coming from 0bama as genuine.





Stop stirring, you old fox! Honestly, the minute that you turn up in a thread I know that there's mischief afoot.



posted on May, 15 2014 @ 01:00 PM
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originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: facedye
can ANYONE here find a social security/PIN number for the president or his wife in this document? i couldn't - the SSN# is missing


Can you find a SSN on these tax returns for all these previous Presidents, Vice Presidents and candidates?
taxhistory.tax.org...

It is standard practice to redact SSN's.


Great link! I'd never seen that page referenced before, it's bookmarked now.



posted on May, 15 2014 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: elouina
There is still no decision by Judge Hollander though.


There is now... and as has been stated the judge did NOT order a investigation!
www.scribd.com...


For the reasons set forth in the accompanying Memorandum Opinion, it is this 13th day of May, 2014, by the United States District Court for the District of Maryland, ORDERED:
1. Defendant’s “Motion to Dismiss the Second Amended Complaint or, in the Alternative, for Summary Judgment ” (ECF 28) is construed as a Motion for Summary Judgment and is GRANTED;
2. Plaintiff’ s Cross-Motion for Summary Judgment (ECF 31) is DENIED;
3. Plaintiff’s request for relief pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 3332(a), see ECF 31, is DENIED;
4. Plaintiff’s request for an order directing defendant to prepare a Vaughn index, see ECF 31, is DENIED as moot. 5. Plaintiff’s “Motion/Request f or the Defense to Prepare Vaugn [sic] Index ” (ECF 14) is DENIED as moot;
6. The Clerk SHALL MAIL a copy of this Order and the accompanying Memorandum Opinion to the plaintiff; and

7. The Clerk is directed to CLOSE this case.


As expected, Taitz lost yet again. Birthers are keeping up with their perfect record - losing every single case they have attempted!



posted on May, 15 2014 @ 07:20 PM
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a reply to: hellobruce

Yup.

Chalk up another one for Orly and *THEE* Obama.

Looks like another case with weak merits as usual.

They always make sure a case always somehow is missing something to *ensure* its dismissal.

Then as usual, the general public always assumes by default that everything is frivolous and laughable.

This red herring was planned to further instill the Obama identity issue is non existent.

Orly is a shill because all the court cases have been frivolous.

It's a major ongoing psy-ops operation.

Does anybody think that there may be a reason for the hundreds weak lawsuits and hype?

Some people think Orly T. and others are Obama shills that are actually staging a charade to keep the *Real* secrets covered up.

It may all be designed to make all the questions look dumb in the first place.

Each case that gets ruled in favor of Obama makes the the next ones harder.

Obama gets a default in his favor without ever showing his real cards.

Perfect plan actually.




posted on May, 15 2014 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
They always make sure a case always somehow is missing something to *ensure* its dismissal.


yes, they are all missing things like facts and evidence - in this case Taitz was demanding the records of someone who never existed!



posted on May, 15 2014 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: hellobruce

Purrrfect indeed !!

Now everybody assumes Obama's SS# is as genuine as a real diamond.

All without showing anything.

It worked again.




posted on May, 15 2014 @ 09:07 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Now everybody assumes Obama's SS# is as genuine as a real diamond.


Well as it is genuine, what else should they assume?



posted on May, 15 2014 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: xuenchen
Now everybody assumes Obama's SS# is as genuine as a real diamond.


Well as it is genuine, what else should they assume?


Well here's what was missing.

The case wasn't asking Obama to prove anything.

The case was directed to show the SS application for somebody named Bounel, implying that Obama is using the same SS#.

Nothing was demanding records or applications from anybody named Obama.

And the case went off on dozens of tangents.

That's what made this one (of many) a red herring.

Now everybody thinks Obama's SS# (whatever it really is) is genuine and not a cubic zirconia.

Brilliant psy-ops to hide whatever it is Obama is hiding.

Amazing.



posted on May, 15 2014 @ 11:20 PM
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Pay attention folks...here are examples of reasoning and logic you'll not experience everyday.




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